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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NESCAC schools are relics of a bygone era. Excluding Williams, the rest are irrelevant compared to the big boys of the Ivies and Duke.[/quote]

Someone’s kid didn’t get in.[/quote]

Only a tiny number of students are even interested enough in applying, so I don’t think you can puff your chest and say they didn’t get in.

Agree they’re relics of a bygone era. The education received is excellent, but most bright students choose to apply elsewhere.

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I can say that they didn't get in because calling them irrelevant is ignorance not reality.

Like any T10/20 they are highly rejective not highly selective. The odds of gaining admission is very small to start because of their size and desire to fill out a class full of extremely smart, well rounded students. This means that the individual pools created as they form a class are very small making fit critical.

The tiny number applying is a feature, not a bug. Since the applicants tend to be highly educated and well off to start it is a cohort which hits the ground running. They are as selective as the best R1s with far lower awareness. If you normalized awareness they would likely be far more selective than their R1 peers.

They aren't attractive to the Engineering and CS crowd (though the CS departments at the top SLACs place very well) but again this is a feature not a bug because entry level science classes are small, very rigorous and taught by professors. If you are not a student interested in engineering the overhead of an engineering department is a burden not a benefit. However, I do believe that over the next 20 years some of the top SLACs will start to look more like Dartmouth than Williams does today adding more emphasis on some aspects of STEM while maintaining their undergraduate education focus. This will be expensive and only a few can do it but it will only increase their attractiveness to those who are aware of them.[/quote]

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