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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Voter ID, strong borders and deportation of border crashers. Immigration completely controlled by who will contribute and not drain resources.

I'm open to uncontrolled borders if all social spending is eliminated in the constitution. When the borders were open in the distant past people sank or swam with zero income redistribution, free hospital services or [b]school.[/b] Charity was 100 percent private.[/quote]

Dear MAGA dumb-f**k, here's a pro-tip:  a rising tide lifts all boats.  [/quote]

No, it's a zero-sum system.  Ds take from those who have, to give to those who don't have, often without rhyme or reason apart from a fundamentally Communist notion that nobody should have any more than anyone else, without regard to merit, effort, or initiative.

Money taken from those who have it sinks them; it doesn't cause them to rise along with those standing there with their hands out.  [/quote]

But I'll bet you're all about being a good little "Christian," while steadfastly refusing to consider those less fortunate than you.   :thumbup: [/quote]

I'm neither Christian, nor a Communist.  I believe that people should take personal responsibility for themselves, not looking to others to "raise their boats" for them.  "Less fortunate" is all too often simply code for having made bad life choices in education, employment, childbearing, personal financial management, and personal relationships, and/or being lazy, or unmotivated.  Nobody else needs to dig them out of holes they have dug for themselves.

Those who suffer unavoidable misfortune through no fault of their own are a different matter, and deserve a base level of support from any civilized society.   [/quote]

What I don't understand from your post is - who gets to decide? What makes you believe you should be making these decisions about other people? What's a "bad life choice" versus a "learning moment?" What about making the best decision you could with the information you had at that time, even if turns out to be wrong? And how do you square making "bad life choices" like childbearing, with the MAGA anti-abortion, oozing toward anti-birth control stance? How do you square with deadbeat dads, leaving women to deal with the entirety of child raising, letting them off scot free, without accountability (this is starting to sound familiar...). How does one make "bad life choices" around education when resources aren't allocated evenly from one school to another, when those with money have very separate and distinct advantages in schooling? What's a kid to do? You seem to want to lump it all with being lazy and unmotivated, etc. because it's so much easier to ascribe it to being a character flaw, and therefore all their fault, when we KNOW you simply can't always dig your way out of those holes. But you seem to see all holes as self-inflicted.

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