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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would want to see the policy that allows ISS for the first instance of insubordination and what the cell phone policy says about the refusal. If those policies are unclear, I agree with your husband on fighting it. It seems like a double whammy for essentially one issue to me. [/quote] The kid broke the known phone rule (she didn’t forget) and was disrespectful to the AP when she was told to turn the phone over for the rest of the day. You are part of the problem if you fight the consequences for those actions.[/quote] My read of the rules at our school is parents would be called first and/or detention. ISS to me reads as a possible overreaction/the administration acting on a whim because they're offended she was disrespectful. Respect goes both ways and includes the school following their own policies.[/quote] My read of the situation is that the ISS is due to her refusing to give the phone to the Admin. The Admin called her to the office, reminded her she couldn't use the phone, and told her that the consequence was that she needed to give him the phone. She would be able to pick up the phone at the end of the day. If the child had done that, the incident is done and life goes on. She returns to class and has to stop by the office to get her phone before leaving school. She escalated the situation when she refused to give the phone to the Admin. The consequence for not following the direction, give me your phone and pick it up at the end of the day, was an ISS. Maybe there was a back and forth and it started with a detention, and she still refused to turn over the phone, maybe there wasn't but she 1) used the phone when she wasn't supposed to 2) refused the instruction to give the phone to the Admin. I would assume that the appeal would be "DD's ADHD makes her impulsive and she does not think through consequences, so we are punishing her for her disability." I suspect that there were a few missing steps in-between the refusal and the suspension because a suspension strikes me as extreme unless there were some in between steps. [/quote] I personally think ISS before involving the parents is extreme even if the situation escalated. That's why I'd want to know the policies for cell phones and insubordination. DD doing things wrong doesn't give the admin the right to go outside their own policies (if they did). That would give DD less respect for the authority because they're unfair.[/quote] I can't tell if this is OP or not - but either way, they are not involving parents because 1) they don't have to, and 2) the parents will attempt to justify their kid's behavior and reduce the punishment. OP, I'm sorry, but your kid needs to have in-school consequences for her actions because she clearly disregards authority and seems to think it's okay to be rude and push back. It is problematic and, perhaps I'm misreading, but your responses indicate that you aren't really taking it seriously. Better to learn now rather than later when it goes on her transcript. [/quote]
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