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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is all relative.  A kid can is screwed if someone with lower stats gets accepted and you don't.  But is has be significantly lower stats.  [/quote]

When I hear about such cases, I am always skeptical that the person who got "screwed" actually knows the other kid's stats, and it is impossible that they know all the information about the other kid that caused the admissions committee to accept that kid and reject the other kid.

You didn't get screwed just because the college didn't take all 60,000 applications, rank them in order of GPA and test scores, and then offer admission to the top 10,000 applications without looking at anything else.[/quote]

Yes but if a 36/1580, valedictorian, class president and varsity capt of championship sports team with maybe something else (national award in major related activity) doesn't get in, but others with demonstrably lower stats (per teachers) are getting in, that kid was screwed.

absolutely.
and yes, its part of life and it happens. but yes, it was being screwed.[/quote]

That is ridiculous. There are more kids like that than spots every year.  I think there are something like 30,000 high school valedictorians alone every single year.[/quote]

Disagree. Most Valedictorians don't have all the other bells & whistles. Those bells & whistles are actually more important.[/quote]

Definitely, and there was nothing in that list that would be some kind of bell or whistle that would guarantee admission to a competitive college.  High stats ....admirable but many applicants have them. Class presidents .....admirable but every high School class has a president. There's 30,000 of those as well.  Varsity Captains... Admirable again but well over 30,000 of those.   National awards admirable again but what award   there are 100,000 of those also.[/quote]

Don't colleges want more than one bell or whistle? So, all of them combined in this example is actually something. 
Truthfully there was likely something defective in the application. Maybe the essays may not have conveyed a fit or an actual interest if shotgunning.[/quote]

The quality of the bow or whistle needs to be very high level.  Athletics for example at a top university. These have to be recruited athletes not just a varsity captain.  There are Olympic caliber recruits at some of these top schools.   [/quote]

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