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Democrats just aren't appealing to anyone.

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That’s overstating things given Harris lost by 1.5% despite such a short and flawed campaign and almost definitely not being who Dems would’ve nominated if there had been a real primary. “There would be a Dem in the White House if Biden had bowed out before the primary” is a simpler explanation than “Dems don’t appeal to anyone despite nearly getting half the vote.”[/quote]

Biden could not have bowed out earlier given the need to not be a lame duck on the Hill or before the world stage and there isn't anyone but Harris who could have picked up the mantel and made a serious run at the white House without totally fracturing the party with a lame "mini primary" in August before the election.[/quote]

Sure he could’ve. There was no “need” not to be a lame duck president; many before have done so. It’s not like he didn’t campaign as a “transition president” in 2020! He lied. (And fwiw I voted for him and Harris.)[/quote]

I’m sick of people holding Dems to a different standard. So he “lied” (or changed his mind; people do that). BFD. Politicians make empty promises and lie all the time (whether they should be able to is a flaw in our system). Why do people ALWAYS point it out for Dems and are so disappointed by it. Newsflash: Trump lied his way through his first term. He lied his way through his campaign. And he lies every day in office. [/quote]

Are you just ranting? I never said Trump doesn’t lie. I didn’t vote for him. I voted for Harris, and Biden before. Trump didn’t win only because Biden lied, but if Biden hadn’t lied and actually stepped aside before it was too late, the Dems win. Any loss should be a time of reflection to understand what could’ve changed the outcome. You can bury your head in the sand, but as a party the Dems need to learn from their many mistakes and not rely on the other side behaving themselves. They have shown they will not. [/quote]

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