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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So if all the kids with hooks like legacy, athletics, first gen, national awards and pro level art go to HYPS, what is the best schools for normal, extremely smart, hardworking kids with normal ec's? I think I'd like my dc to be surrounded by kids that fall into the latter group. [/quote]

School of hard knocks, this is one area of kids I feel sorry for.  The whole academic arena is perverted by elitism.  But wait what is elitism, well it isn't academic elitism.

I went to a school often referred to as the "Poor Boys MIT".  Often billed as "Best education per dollar spent"(it really was that cheap.)   They have the best return on investment; kids make much more than their parents.  I make ten times what my parents make (they were that poor).  I can't recommend.  Many schools like this are what are considered "Workhorse" schools.  They let anyone in and have high attrition rates (unlike what you would expect from an elite academic university), kids there actually work at academics.  The thing is you end up with no brand at the end of the tunnel.  The good news is a smart hard-working kid will be just fine with or without it.  I recommend skip it.  If the kids smart, he probably took AP classes and what not.  Won't need it.  Truth be known American high school education can be pretty good especially compared to the IIT folks over in India, don't even have a computer until graduate school.[/quote]

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