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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes. Sin is a fear- and shame-based control structure. They must understand the distinction between control and actual morality. We also spend a lot of time discussing how sin is about our contract with God, not other people, and how, as the "other people" to others, it's not our place to judge another person's sins, it's God's. Standing in judgment of a fellow sinner is, in and of itself, a sin, and the greater sin, at that. [/quote] Reference in a Bible/Torah/Quaran/other holy book for this?[/quote] All of the above and then some, as many modern societal 'no-nos' are built on these same concepts. Specific emphasis given to the way "sinfulness" is applied thicker/heavier to women/femmes than men/masc-of-center people. [/quote] I think you misunderstood. A reference would be you quoting something from one or more of those books to prove that they say "standing in judgment of a fellow sinner is, in and of itself, a sin, and the greater sin, at that."[/quote] Broseph, standing in judgment of another of God's creations puts you above them. You're assuming God's role. What greater sin could there possibly be than usurping divine authority? Pick the holy book of your choosing and cite it yourself; I've never found one that says otherwise.[/quote] But if that's the case, then you should be able to drop a clear quote here. IMO the Bible, for example, says that the church as an authority figure gets to judge individual believers. I as a congregant don't exactly (though I am allowed to say something), but the church leadership absolutely does. For ex: “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosedf in heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.” --Matthew 18:15-20 Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should [b]restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself[/b], lest you too be tempted. --Galatians 6:1 I'd like to see your cite that says that [b]pointing out someone else's transgression is a sin[/b]. Specific verse or verses that together say this.[/quote] Do it yourself, and don't twist what I said to justify your inability to find support for it (which you already cited; I'll bold it for you, but that's the last freebie I'm handing out on this thread to some argumentative jesusite acting stupidly obtuse about things a simple WWJD would explain).[/quote] We must be defining judge differently. I'm simply defining it as call a spade a spade, not as setting yourself up over someone else.[/quote]
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