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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Realistically it's much more selfish to have children. Whenever people talk about wanting kids, it's always "I want..." the epitome of selfish.

A mom friend told me once that anyone who calls you selfish for not wanting kids is probably going through a rough time with their kids and are a wee bit jealous. Maybe not of your entire life, but of that moment.

I've known since a kid that I didn't want kids. I think it's pretty selfless to realize you won't be a great parent and thus don't put an innocent child through it. More parents should not have children honestly, quite a few are not fit. [/quote]

The bar for being a good parent is very low. [b]There's no such thing as a perfect parent, and we all turn out mostly okay.[/b] The people who turn out really flawed usually have something else going on.

But I agree that anyone who has kids because they want love, or they have some expectation that their children will provide THEM with anything (security, grandchildren, etc.) are in it for the wrong reason.[/quote]
Is that why there are so many child/animal abusers, rapists, murderers, drunk drivers? Because we all turn out mostly ok? I think society disagrees. But thank goodness someone is popping out kids that turn into all these to fund SS  :roll: [/quote]

Animal abusers are almost always childless... think about that.[/quote]

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