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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How can the amish get away with not educating their kids? Is school not a basic right? Sounds like a dangerous cult from the middle ages that should be stopped[/quote] They do educate their children, just not the same number of years that most people do. The Supreme Court ruled compulsory education couldn't be imposed upon the Amish as it would violate their right to religious freedom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_v._Yoder . Read the opinion see it's limitations - like the religion had to have been established prior to 1950 to qualify for an exemption. You also need to do more research about the Amish to understand they are hardly dangerous (they're pacificists and didn't even represent themselves before the Supreme Court). They also aren't from the middle ages - just pre-industrial revolution. [/quote] Are you honestly saying that that is not a form of child abuse? Relgious freedom??? Right to stay simple.... you can be educated and simple, or is that not possible. They are dangerous if they do that, the lives of members are closely monitored, and they can be cruel. Cutting beards and shunning etc[/quote] Education though wonderful, is a privilege, not a right. Nothing stops the kids from growing up and seing higher education, though yes, it would be harder jumping back in at an older age. I cannot see how that is child abuse. My guess is that most Amish parents spend a lot more quality time with their kids than most busy DC families do and are a closer knit family as a result. I'd take attention over education any day. Yes, as with the beard cutting, this shows that Amish people are just that, people. There are good and bad as with any group of people. In general though I do believe the crime rate is far below other people groups.[/quote] The law most definitely defines education as a right. That's why SN kids have IEP's. The SUpreme Court case the Amish won was decided back in 1974. I don't think they'd win today. That's also why this "rumspringa" business isn't a truly free choice. Without a high school diploma, these kids can't get jobs, and they end up living in pretty terrible conditions. Of course home looks pretty good after trying to live in NYC on minimum wage. They don't have the choices thatmost of the people on DCUM .[/quote] Not to mention that in many cases, you are shunned by your family and community if you don't return. Of course most people don't choose to try to make it with a 6 th grade education and no ability to see or talk to the only people they've ever known or love ever again. How much of a true "choice" is that?[/quote]
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