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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Narrator: He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.[/quote] This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South. [/quote] I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise. [/quote] This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story. [/quote] Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue [/quote] Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.[/quote] It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us. [/quote] Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.[/quote] We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable. [/quote] See the PP with the stats from the CDC. 93% are within the first 12 weeks. No fetus is viable at 12 weeks. I typically try to keep things cordial here but you're talking out of your a$$.[/quote] Of course they are viable at 12 weeks. They can be viable (or not viable) at 2 weeks. You have no idea what you’re talking about and need to educate yourself on the definition of viability [/quote] You're talking about the viability of the pregnancy, not the embryo/fetus. "While there is no single formally recognized clinical definition of “viability,” the term is often used in medical practice in two distinct circumstances. In the first, “viability” addresses whether a pregnancy is expected to continue developing normally. In early pregnancy, a normally developing pregnancy would be deemed viable, whereas early pregnancy loss or miscarriage would not. In the second, “viability” addresses whether a fetus might survive outside of the uterus. Later in pregnancy, a clinician may use the term “viable” to indicate the chance for survival that a fetus has if delivered before it can fully develop in the uterus. Clinicians most commonly focus on the periviable period, which refers to weeks 20 through 25 and 6 days of a pregnancy. However, according to ACOG and the Society for Maternal–Fetal Medicine’s Obstetric Care Consensus #6, Periviable birth, rates of neonatal survival to discharge at this time range dramatically from 23% to 27% for births at 23 weeks, 42% to 59% for births at 24 weeks, and 67% to 76% for births at 25 weeks of gestation. The consensus also notes that deliveries before 23 weeks have a 5–6% survival rate and that significant morbidity is universal (98–100%) among the rare survivors. " [url]https://www.acog.org/advocacy/facts-are-important/understanding-and-navigating-viability[/url] You're arguing that politicians should decide whether and when a pregnancy is viable. We're arguing that that decision is up to the pregnant person and their doctor. [/quote]
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