Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 23:48     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

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Anonymous wrote:If Trump wins the presidency, there won't be a vote to ban abortion. He will ban it outright, nationwide, with an Executive Order. He will also ban the morning after pill. This is all being orchestrated by The Heritage Foundation.


There’s a sale on aluminum foil at Costco this week, if you want to stock up.


I guess you aren't paying attention





Wow. This POS deserves his own thread.

What TF is wrong with these people?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 23:47     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:Many Virginians thought Youngkin wouldn't be so harsh on abortion restrictions. So many fell for his facade.

Marylanders, please don't make that mistake. Hogan will have allegiance to the party.


+1

Republicans lie.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 23:38     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

If you want more judges like Aileen Cannon and Amy Coney Barrett, and more cabinet members like Ben Carson and Betsy DeVos, vote for Hogan. You can like him as a person, you can think he did a good job as governor. But unless you want a Republican-controlled Senate, you shouldn't vote for him.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 23:28     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

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He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue


Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.


It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.


Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.


We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable.


See the PP with the stats from the CDC. 93% are within the first 12 weeks. No fetus is viable at 12 weeks. I typically try to keep things cordial here but you're talking out of your a$$.


Of course they are viable at 12 weeks. They can be viable (or not viable) at 2 weeks. You have no idea what you’re talking about and need to educate yourself on the definition of viability


You're talking about the viability of the pregnancy, not the embryo/fetus.

"While there is no single formally recognized clinical definition of “viability,” the term is often used in medical practice in two distinct circumstances. In the first, “viability” addresses whether a pregnancy is expected to continue developing normally. In early pregnancy, a normally developing pregnancy would be deemed viable, whereas early pregnancy loss or miscarriage would not.

In the second, “viability” addresses whether a fetus might survive outside of the uterus. Later in pregnancy, a clinician may use the term “viable” to indicate the chance for survival that a fetus has if delivered before it can fully develop in the uterus. Clinicians most commonly focus on the periviable period, which refers to weeks 20 through 25 and 6 days of a pregnancy. However, according to ACOG and the Society for Maternal–Fetal Medicine’s Obstetric Care Consensus #6, Periviable birth, rates of neonatal survival to discharge at this time range dramatically from 23% to 27% for births at 23 weeks, 42% to 59% for births at 24 weeks, and 67% to 76% for births at 25 weeks of gestation. The consensus also notes that deliveries before 23 weeks have a 5–6% survival rate and that significant morbidity is universal (98–100%) among the rare survivors. "

https://www.acog.org/advocacy/facts-are-important/understanding-and-navigating-viability

You're arguing that politicians should decide whether and when a pregnancy is viable.

We're arguing that that decision is up to the pregnant person and their doctor.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 23:08     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

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Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue


Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.


It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.


Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.


We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable.


See the PP with the stats from the CDC. 93% are within the first 12 weeks. No fetus is viable at 12 weeks. I typically try to keep things cordial here but you're talking out of your a$$.


Of course they are viable at 12 weeks. They can be viable (or not viable) at 2 weeks. You have no idea what you’re talking about and need to educate yourself on the definition of viability


There is no such thing as 2 week fetus. At 2 weeks, there might not even yet be conception.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 22:51     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

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Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue


Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.


It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.


Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.


We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable.


See the PP with the stats from the CDC. 93% are within the first 12 weeks. No fetus is viable at 12 weeks. I typically try to keep things cordial here but you're talking out of your a$$.


Of course they are viable at 12 weeks. They can be viable (or not viable) at 2 weeks. You have no idea what you’re talking about and need to educate yourself on the definition of viability
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 22:11     Subject: Re:Larry Hogan and abortion

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Anonymous wrote:Larry Hogan did a good job. I'm judging him by that.


How do you define "good job"? What did he do? What did he not do?


+1 Great questions. The state economy stalled under his watch, Purple Line had cost overruns and was stalled, refused to send vaccines to the places where people actually wanted them. What exactly is his great achievement? Not being a COVID denier?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 22:08     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

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Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue


Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.


It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.


Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.


We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable.


See the PP with the stats from the CDC. 93% are within the first 12 weeks. No fetus is viable at 12 weeks. I typically try to keep things cordial here but you're talking out of your a$$.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 21:55     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Guess Hogan is just trying to split the baby . . .
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 21:24     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Look, if the Republicans continue to have their way, the government creep of regulating women's bodies is going to extend to prenatal testing... so if you are comfortable with that, by all means, vote Republican.

https://jessica.substack.com/p/the-gops-next-target-prenatal-tests

Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 21:18     Subject: Re:Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:Larry Hogan did a good job. I'm judging him by that.


How do you define "good job"? What did he do? What did he not do?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 21:17     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

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Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue


Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.


It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.


Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.


We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable.


It used to be that 43% of abortions happened in the first 6 weeks (i.e., within 2 weeks of the first missed period), when the conceptus is an embryo, not a fetus. So no, that's not a fact.

But as the PP said - you get to make the decisions about your uterus, other people get to make the decisions about their uteruses.

Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 20:55     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue


Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.


It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.


Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.


We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 19:31     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue


Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.


It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.


Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 19:27     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

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Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


No, it’s not a “reasonable compromise”.


+1. Choose for yourself but not anyone else.