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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not worth it.

--Ivy double grad[/quote]

Single ivy grad here, from back in the dark ages before tuition started increasing at twice the rate of inflation.  I genuinely don’t see how the education is worth the list price anymore, unless you’re swimming in money and can drop $80k a year without noticing it.  If you get a pile of aid (not loans!), then great, but otherwise no, not worth it.   I’d have done just as well at one of our state schools (SUNY) and maybe even better.  [/quote]

The fact is majority who "get into an Ivy/T25" will do "just as well at one of their state schools".  Because it's the person and their drive that matters, not the school. What you do at college matters much more than where you go. 
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There's a kind of person who will be top of their less-lalented class but not stretch to reach their potential, who would do better at a more demanding school.

And there are people who can't handle the stress of having more-talented peers, who would do better where they are at the top or have a more equal (lower variance) peer group. [/quote]

Obviously there are exceptions, but the vast majority who get admission to T25 schools are "strivers" and will excel and push themselves wherever they are.  Have you seen the kids who get into these schools? So yes, there might be a few who won't stretch to reach their potential at a "lesser school" but that's maybe 1%.  And for that I'd argue, it's on the kid. Your life is what you make of it.  If you cannot excel in the honors program at State U, then that is on your kid.  Fact is majority of top notch kids (those who get into T25) will continue excelling no matter where they go.  It's their personality and inherent drive that will get them there.

I'd actually argue that there are more who cannot handle the stress of a T25 where it can be extremely competitive.  Just think, your Bio 101 class is filled with everyone who is used to getting a 4.687GPA, all As, while taking 5+ AP/IB courses thru out HS.  Yet someone is going to end up with Cs and Bs for the first time in their life.  You are at college with the cream of the crop---eveyrone is in the Top 5% of their HS class and leaders.  Yet not everyone can be a leader at college.  So yes, it's actually a better environment for many to be at a "lesser" college in the honors program where you can be top dog---you can do research with the top professors, and get more experiences rather than being middle fo the pack where everyone is top notch. 
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