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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was a first gen student. I had zero interest in joining a sorority. Nobody in my social group growing  up had any experience with them, so it was not on my radar.

Moving forward, my daughter is rushing this week. We are supporting her, a little reluctantly though. All the girls she has met her first semester are also rushing. Her school does not ask for recommendation letters from previous members, thank God, because we really don’t have those connections.

My question is, h[b]ow disadvantaged is a first gen student who is rushing at one of the schools where they still ask for rec letters?  Is that system in place to continue keeping the “poors” out of the greek system?  [/b]Also, don’t get me started on how expensive some of those soroties cost. Just another reason why they are so out of reach for most first gen students. [/quote]

Depends on the school. There's another thread about SMU rush right now that caught my eye because I grew up walking distance from SMU's campus (but did not go to school there); the system there is not so much about "keeping the 'poors' out" so much as keeping the people of a certain class and culture in -- which effectively keeps everyone else out. My DH who is from here (FFX) saw a picture of my niece with her sorority friends posing in identical outfits and they all had cowboy boots on and he asked me if wearing cowboy boots is a real thing in Texas. I laughed, and told him it is, but that isn't why they all have those boots -- I'd bet a lot of money that all of those girls have those boots because they ride in them, and have been riding at one of Texas's sorority feeder summer camps for years (sorority-feeder camps are a thing in TX). So it's not just "We're Texas girls, we wear expensive cowboy boots." It's "We're Texas girls who have been to the right summer camps where we wore these boots as we learned to ride and care for horses because it's a thing here that people of our class do." It's not just about money, it's about shared lived experiences (that most people cannot afford, and that some people who can afford are clueless about).

Some schools are not like this, and have at least some houses that embrace diversity and first gen students. [/quote]

You’re way over thinking the boots. [b] Plus, the boots that you ride in, are not the type of boots that you’d wear any time other than riding.[/b]

- A former Mystic camper/UT sorority girl with a sister/cousin and many friends who were in sororities at SMU and went to Mystic or Waldemar[/quote]

Inaccurate. [/quote]

Nope.  [b]If you’re a sorority girl at SMU, the western boots you wear at school are NOT your riding boots.  [/b]

-Have owned several horses, was a rider from childhood-20s, attended one of these camps and was in a sorority.  BTW, most girls stop going to camp by age 15-16 and don’t ride after that.  The boots have nothing to do with camp or riding.  [/quote]

The boot habit does survive riding. But of course the pair worn to a football game with a cute outfit isn't going to be covered in muck or mud -- of course not. But they are going to be a clean version of the Lucchese or Tecovas worn for riding at camp -- probably in a "scotch" or "tan" -- not white or black. Although this is changing, I'm seeing more white boots these days (which just makes me think of the DC cheerleaders in their Lucchese). Agree most of us don't ride past 15 or so. [/quote]

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