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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People on this thread are saying the women don’t marry the men because they don’t have good jobs but here’s Janet Yellen in 1996 saying the men don’t marry the women because they don’t have to any more.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/an-analysis-of-out-of-wedlock-births-in-the-united-states/

I had a personally illuminating moment about this when a woman I knew tangentially had a baby and dropped out of college. I was dumbfounded that she would do that - she was the first in her family to go. When I saw her with the baby she was filled with love and joy from the baby which is of course great! Basically the pull of being a mother outweighed the prospect of college and career, or she thought she could have both. The dad was…fine? I don’t know if she thought he’d step up or not or just thought he was good enough but they weren’t married.

There seems to be a real need for more research into what makes women decide to get pregnant when they do. [/quote]

Women who are raised with healthy and secure parental love and know their worth don't have to have a baby with a dud to experience this love and joy from a baby before they even finish college. [/quote]

I'm sure millions of women raised with healthy and secure parental love nevertheless had sex and a baby before the ideal time frame. Typically the culprit is a man who doesn't respect a woman's efforts to resist, but she doesn't have to make them either.

Poster is operating from a moralistic universe that is entirely a social construct. Biologically it is entirely normal for girls and women from age 15-45 to experience strong sexual desire because whatever else we might want to think about ourselves and the meaning of our lives, biologically we are meant to reproduce. Anyone who doubts the strength of these urges need only wait for menopause to show them exactly how much of their lives has been compelled by biology rather than reason. And in most cases where the body and mind are sound following childbirth, that biology drives a deep love and elation (oxytocin) rooted in the caretaking of the offspring. That's how babies survive, because biology makes their mothers love them while they are helpless.

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