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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel like this post was written by someone who is not Jewish the same way conservative trolls will try to post things from the perspective of "a lifelong liberal who is now disillusioned".

[b]Judaism is not Israel. I'm ashamed of Israel's war crimes the same way I am ashamed of the US war crimes following 9-11. That doesn't mean I don't still believe in democracy.[/b]  [/quote]
I'm the pp from previous page that said I was struggling with the war crimes. I feel the same way about 9/11. If 9/11 was actually 6/11, would you still feel so jolly about celebrating 7/4 so soon after? IMO no, it would certainly dampen the mood. I get that 7/4 isnt religious, but the "feeling" is missing, related directly to crimes being committed by what I'm supposed to celebrate. [/quote]

What court has found Israel guilty of war crimes? [/quote]
Well thats not what this thread is about, buuuuut since you asked: 
We will soon find out, apparently yesterday Erdogan called for Bibi to be tried. "The butcher of gaza" has quite the ring to it. We will see what happens, but it's clear that many things happening are war crimes -  
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkeys-erdogan-says-israels-netanyahu-will-be-tried-war-criminal-2023-12-04/

Feel free to check the sources at the bottom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

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I'm appalled by Israel's government and Netanyahu, but pardon me if I don't consider Erdogan to be an entirely good-faith judge of what's going on. (For one, he previously said Israelis are "only satisfied by sucking [Palestinian children's] blood" and that behind all opposition to Turkey's government lies "this mastermind," before his political allies produced a video titled "The Mastermind" that opened with a Star of David.)

I wouldn't expect to see Netanyahu on trial for war crimes unless the opposition takes power and decides to throw him overboard, and even then, he'd probably flee to somewhere where he couldn't be made to stand trial.[/quote]
I agree with you on Erdogan, but there is other unrest simmering, this was just a very public and recent call for action. The Netherlands has been accused of "war crime complicity", and I feel like the longer this war goes on (aka the more people are killed) the more sh*t is going to hit the fan for Bibi and countries supporting israel.

Anyways, just saying that there are lots of israelis and jews that dont support the measures being taken and are finding this season difficult. [/quote]

So, no war crimes. Take your hyperbole somewhere else, like the Politics section.[/quote]

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