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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A lot of teams chose to not share the team ladder because there are parents who will decide that they know better than the head coach and start debating the line up for A meets.  It is a headache coaches and team reps don’t want to deal with.  And yes the fastest kids always get to swim but if the same kid is the fastest in all 4 strokes and can only do 2 on Saturday those two events may change week to week based on match ups which impacts which swimmer who is lower on the ladder also gets an opportunity to race week to week….[/quote]

Very few kids have top times in all four strokes.  Usually it’s the edge cases (kids with a couple do too times and a couple of 2-4 times) that cause questions.  And for good reason. Transparency will set you free. The data is the data.  Unless you’re up to no good, more is better.[/quote]

I think you missed the point of the previous post.  If Sam is 1-2 in all four strokes, which events he swims might determine whether someone who is 4 or 5 in a particular stroke makes the A meet in any given week.  Assume, for example, Sam and Ben are 1-2 across the board and Mike is 5th on the ladder in free (his best stroke and his highest ranking on the ladder).  If neither Sam or Ben swim free, Mike is top 3 among the remaining options.  If Sam and/or Ben swim free, then it will depend whether the kids ranked 3 and 4 are in free or other events.[/quote]

I didn’t miss the point.  Nothing you just said supports keeping the data secret. If anything, it means the data, including seed times, should be public so parents understand why kids are swimming in which events.  I have seen enough to know that shenanigans happen.[/quote]

I agree with this.  I am an MCSL team rep and it would be terrible if the data was secret.  Our coach always has to make a call or two as you described and it is much easier to explain with seed times.[/quote]

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