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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP, parents are not making that distinction, neuropsychologists are. A group of them actually who authored the book, "Misdiagnosis." These neuropsychologists studied the difference between Aspergers children and Gifted Non-Aspergers children and their obsessions. Maybe it's time to look at the reality that some children have indeed been misdiagnosed.[/quote] I never said that children haven't been misdiagnosed. I only said it is BS that children with AS won't engage with others who share their obsessions. I live in that world, I have a son with Aspergers, I know plenty of parents of children with Aspergers. One has a child who is obsessed with trains (which is why I came up with that example) and shares his obsession with other kids with AS who love trains. He isn't all that gifted but he absolutely has AS and absolutely engages in reciprocal friendships over this special interest. I realize you have this issue you keep promoting and I am not going to argue with you about your underlying point. but there is this mistaken search for the holy grail factor that distinguishes kids with AS and the fact is that the diagnosis is always multifactural and no two kids with AS are alike. i remember thinking my DS couldn't possibly have an ASD because he didn't line up his toys. I had read somewhere that this was "the" distinction. There is no "the" distinction. Personally, I've never found neuropsychs to be that good with ASDs -- they tend to focus on the minutia and miss the big picture. I'm sure there are some that get it, but obviously not teh ones who wrote this book.[/quote] Engage may not mean the same as having social reciprocity. Aspergers children may not be as inclined to entertain another's opinions or viewpoints even if it is pertaining to their obsession. They may simply enjoy discussing theirs. That's engagement but that's not social reciprocity. [b]Social reciprocity is listening, hearing, replying, and having a discussion that may not be your choice to talk about. And the authors of this book state that Aspergers children who are engaging in social reciprocity with others over their obsession are not likely to have Aspergers to begin with. They may have been misdiagnosed. [/b]That doesn't sound like BS to me but you're definitely allowed to hold a different opinion. And lining up toys is a symptom of autism and not one of the criteria in the DSM, just like hand flapping is also a symptom. Doesn't mean a child has ASD, as there are kids who flap and line up toys and they're not ASD at all. [/quote] My 4 yr old DS does this and does it all the time. He still has Asperger's. His cousins are the same way but my brother refuses to get them evaluated and like you, insists their social deficits, obsessions and repetitive behaviors come from being "gifted." So they get no help or support or services that address these issues. I suppose it doesn't matter much at this point, they function well at school, get excellent grades, etc. But I've seen this played out with an older relative with a teen - he was fine in the earlier grades but had major problems in high school. Not as many supports and help at that point - the interventions just aren't as affective when they're older.[/quote]
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