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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"If all other credentials are equal, Asian-Americans need to score 140 points more than whites, 270 points higher than Hispanics, and 450 points above African-Americans out of a maximum 1600 on the math and reading SAT to have the same chance of admission to a private college, according to “No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal,” a 2009 book co-written by Princeton sociologist Thomas Espenshade."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-02/harvard-targeted-in-u-s-asian-american-discrimination-probe.html[/quote]

That's because they don't just go by test scores when making admissions decisions. As it should be,[/quote]

PP, how did you do on reading comprehension tests?  I'm asking b/c you failed to note the words "If all other credentials are equal . . . ."Yes,  factors other than test scores are taken into account, but AA candidates are still held to a higher standard.  ... [/quote]

First, this news is from February 2012.  I'm pretty sure these complaints were already withdrawn/dismissed a few months ago: "In August [2011], an Asian-American student whose undergraduate application had been turned down by Harvard filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights at the Department of Education alleging that the rejection was based on race. The Department of Education opened an investigation which lasted several months before the student withdrew the complaint."  http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/5/24/affirmative-action-supreme-court/  I recall seeing other articles in the April/May timeframe that discussed the Dept of Ed's closure of these cases.

Second, I've read Espenshade's work, and his research did not take into account other factors besides race and SAT scores.  So when the article says "if all other credentials are equal," it is not saying that those factors were considered and discounted, but rather saying hypothetically that if every student is absolutely identical except for race and SAT, then Espenshade's differential is experienced.

HTH.[/quote]

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