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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I agree with everything the poster up thread said in his outlined reasons. I’ll also add Black popular culture, street level culture, glorifies violence and rage. It’s a vicious cycle, with people justifying listening to this music (and driving obnoxious loud engine cars or atvs though neighborhood streets) because they’re bored/pissed off at the racist world/lacking opportunities. But it just makes them more bitter and antisocial. We’re looking to leave our neighborhood because the gulf between law abiding, friendly neighbors and antisocial criminals has gotten way out of whack. We’re moderate dems who used to consider ourselves liberals.[/quote]

You’re not a progressive and I seriously doubt you’re a moderate Dem, either. You just sound 100% like a typical Trump supporter. [/quote]
Comments like this are so not helpful. Democrats are absolutely allowed to notice certain cultural tendencies. They absolutley are allowed not to like/want to live among certain anti-social cultures.

This conversation absolutely needs to be had and it does no one any good when you automatically try to shut it down by saying the poster is a Trump supporter. No good at all.[/quote]

Ok, if you say so…. But fair warning then - if what you’re posting is indistinguishable from something a typical trumper might say - and in this case it is - then you better expect some pushback.

I think you need to do some serious introspection if you’re agreeing with or saying things that sound like a trumper would say. [/quote]
If you feel so strongly about this issue, then come to this discussion with facts. Don't shut down conversation with the "You are a typical trumper if you say this" line.

Instead, come with facts. Show us facts that prove wrong those people who are noticing that most anti-social crime in communities (what is the proper term for it? the carjackings, gun fights, car thefts, dangerously riding atvs down neighborhood streets, etc) is being committed by a certain demographic. Show us your facts that those people are wrong and it is indeed another demographic committing those crimes instead. [/quote]

Here’s a FACT:

You are blathering almost word for word what trumpers spew here every day. That’s a FACT.

I don’t care what you call yourself - you’re just another trumper. [/quote]

The turfers have gotten out of hand spewing the Faux News talking points.[/quote]

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