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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We have two Teslas - bought an X in 2016 and a 3 last year.  We’re very liberal.  Elon’s going off the deep end, but insisting that anyone who owns a Tesla has no ethics is comical.  I mean, you realize that none of the big automakers would be producing EVs were it not for Tesla, right?  [/quote]

Wrong actually.

And for god's sake Elon did not invent Tesla. He could not invent a simple fan.[/quote]
exactly. I stated this upthread, too. The idea was not his original idea.  Also, I read some where a while ago that he started Tesla purely to impress a woman.

He doesn't really care about green house emissions. Please. He moved to a state that supports big oil and has laws about selling EVs directly.  In order to buy a Tesla in TX you have to get it out of state.

Yet, Musk still lives in TX. Why? Because he knows people will still buy them, though tides may be turning.[/quote]

In the history of Tesla, omg people Musk did not invent any technology ever.

He stole Tesla from its original makers. He went to court over and over again just like Don The Con actually Elon credits his court acumen to Dump.

College degree hahahahahaha Standford the DCUM school lied for him lost in court lied again lost again. Stanford is a crap school this is a fact. How they handled this situation was atrocious.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-many-failures-of-elon-musk-captured-in-one-giant-infographic-2017-05-24[/quote]

Omg who cares. That's like saying Howard Hughes had no impact on aviation because he didn't invent flight and the aircraft.  It takes more than just inventing something, it takes a business magnate mind to change the world with new ideas as well because you still need to commercialize and develop new inventions even if they were invented by someone else. Inventing something new is one thing, but going out raising capital, and developing the means of production on an industrial scale to get new technologies widely adopted is a whole different beast.  Just because Elon didn't invent Tesla's technology doesn't mean anything. Do CEOs of pharmaceutical companies all personal invent the therapies they sell?  No.

Dumb argument.[/quote]

DP. I mean, so what? Lots of car makers were developing electric cars when Mush came along, they continued to develop and raise capital and "develop the means of production" to "commercialize" and launch their electric cars. Musk is special because... he's a pos.[/quote]

DP - and a Tesla owner - the point is that Tesla was the first company to mass produce very desirable EVs.  Tesla (the company) changed the market for EVs such that traditional automakers had to make their own.  They drastically accelerated the timeline for EVs.  You don’t have to like Elon Musk to appreciate that.

Do I agree with how Musk is behaving now?  Of course not.  But I’m also not going to sell my cars over it.  I’m not going to apologize for owning them.  Also, equating Musk with Trump is absurd; the latter was the freaking *president* FFS.  Musk is not.  If people want to buy non-Tesla EVs, have at it.  But the multiple posts on this forum claiming some kind of moral high ground for not owning Teslas are ridiculous.[/quote]

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