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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]LOL at the MAGA trying to stir the pot.[/quote]

Never voted Republican in my life. Masters degree from SAIS and strong believer in NATO. I am gravely concerned at how involved we’re getting with Ukraine.  [/quote]
Sure you are.[/quote]

We’re on the same side. Do you have no concerns with what is happening? [/quote]

The alternative options are all worse and would have disastrous second/third order long term consequences.  They've done a good job of staying calm and not getting baited.  They also smartly got lend lease set up to get around any problems that might arise should Republicans get a majority in the mid terms.  I'm more worried about Erdogan playing us than Zelensky.  The Azeri-Armenian stuff is concerning.[/quote]

Why is the Azeri Azerbaijan stuff concerning?

It’s just some caucasians beating up each other.

Erdogan is a very easy person to understand/deal with if you understand turkey’s geographic importance and respect the power that flows from that geography

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Putin and Erdogan are very similar.  Neither are difficult to understand and both have imperial ambitions.  Just as Putin wants a new Russian Empire Erdogan wants a new Ottoman Empire.  I'm worried about Turkey starting a second front (especially with Congress being pro-Armenian), things spiralling, and Turkey making a play for Dagestan/Chechnya.  All of which make sense tactically from Turkey's perspective.[/quote]

No one cares about Armenia except people who like the kardashians

Completely irrelevant

Btw Ottoman Empire crumbling a century ago lead to a lot of bad things btw — the issue with bro-ottomans isn’t their imperial ambitions but their Islamism

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Congress cares about Armenia.  The Armenian lobby has been very strong on the hill.  The American people barely knows it exists though.

A second front via Turkey is useful from a short term Ukrainian perspective but medium term and from a broader persepective creates lots of not necessarily good complications.

Islamism is just a tool used in internal power games.  As we already know from Chechnya, Afghanistan, and other places.  It is a pandora's box when it gets opened.  If Turkey makes a stronger move it will use Islamism as part of its tool chest.

Any time an empire crumbles bad things that had been papered over are unleashed.  This is especially true if outside powers get involved.  It is better if it happens organically.  That being said, Turkey is a counter weight to Iran and Saudi Arabia. [/quote]
People here also seem to forget that Turkey is part of NATO. [/quote]

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