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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No one will say they pushed someone out "for no reason." You may not know the reason or consider it valid but if it happened to you, the person had a reason they considered valid.[/quote]

Yeah, fired people often claim it's "for no reason." It very, very rarely is.[/quote]

But we’re not talking about people who get fired. If someone gets fired, it’s “for cause” so even if that person doesn’t want to admit it, there was a reason. I’ve listened to people dissemble about stuff like this “oh they just hated me for no reason” and then it turns out they just weren’t doing their job.

But this thread is about being passive-aggressively pushed out— having your work environment made so miserable you leave on your own. This is something else. If management had a reason to fire someone like this, why not do it? Or give negative reviews that provide the specific reasons for the problems? If management has a reason, why not just be clear?

And the answer is often that there is no valid reason. The manager is scapegoating the person to cover for their own incompetence. Or they feel threatened by the workers competence and want to neutralize them as a threat. They have a totally non-work-related reason for disliking them (reasons I’ve heard people don’t like a person: he’s too tall, she seems stuck up, she has a bad haircut, he went to Duke, she’s Canadian). So they micromanage or staff them to terrible projects or “forget” to include them in key meetings. They spread nasty rumors, exclude them from informal socializing, bad mouth them to higher ups or other supervisors. They make work a living hell until the person leaves because they can’t take it any more.

It happens all the time. There are so many people who, when given the minimal power of middle management, will wield it selfishly and unfairly. Lots of jerks in the world.[/quote]

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