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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I read who gets in and why too, and while very insightful, I’m not sure it gives a magic formula. What I took away from WGIAW it was: Be very smart and get an A and 5 on BC Calc junior year (especially if female as this illustrates high quant IQ.) Take the other hardest courses at your school and get As Apply ED and EA Be full pay Be recruited for a sport Most importantly, admission officers are human and make many seemingly random decisions Anyway, this “recipe” is not possible for most kids. For my kids, we are going to do a lot of rolling and EA schools and be happy with those schools. We are not getting attached to any one perfect school. I am encouraging my kid to apply to schools they fit their areas of interest but have admission rates above 50%. Maybe they will try for one harder to get into school for ED but that will be balanced with others that are more likely. [/quote] PP. I don’t think the book gives a formula. I kind of gleaned one from the book and from anecdotes of friends and neighbors. It worked for us. Not saying it would work for others. But maybe it’s helpful for some who like to think in a “what helps” way. Lots of things don’t help. Some things do. Play those cards right and you improve your odds. That’s all I meant. [/quote] PP Can you tell us what you gleaned from it? What matters and what does not?[/quote] PP here. Yes! It’s grades, rigor, SAT/ACT, ECs, and applications. I also want to make clear that it isn’t at all about getting into a Top 20 college. It’s about aiming for what you think is best for your DC. You get the formula, maximize the variables in it, and that improves your odds for colleges that you’re targeting. It’s so simple people will think it’s stupid. But we just took each variable in turn during junior year and used our limited time and money on what mattered most, each of those variables. Like we said, we can’t control everything, but for the next 2 montres, we’re focusing on maximizing SAT score. Check. Next. [/quote] What I got out of the book was partly how many totally qualified students they see, and how they have to prune hard to get to a reasonably sized class. It helped me see that my kid's experience of being put on many waitlists was actually a sign of being qualified but just not having some (likely unchangeable) attributes desired by the school for that particular class. Also how important it is to tell a coherent story about the student. Want to major in subject X but have showed no interest in it before (through classes, extracurriculars, etc.)? Not a great look. Say you couldn't do extracurriculars because of family obligations but then don't give enough detail about the time commitment? You haven't proven your case and it's hard to tell if you're an involved older sibling or just a slacker.[/quote] PP. totally agree. Waitlist? You’re close and just not lucky enough. Those are things you can’t change. Coherent story? Right! That’s the application variable. That’s something you can change, a variable. What’s so amazing to watch is people throw up their hands and say it’s all random. It’s more accurate to say that it’s partially random and partially in your control. The reason I think the book is so good is that it highlighted some things that we could work on. So we made a list and focused on those items. It was much better than just anxiety over things we can’t control or know. Even if DC’s results hadn’t been great, we still would have felt like we did our best. Win-win. [/quote]
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