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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I believe this will happen in more states. Great! Tenure protects ineffective and lazy professors. [/quote]

Do you know how hard it is to a) get a tenure track job? b) earn tenure?   Once you've completed a PhD (avg. 6 years) post-doc (2 years) gotten a tenure track position (maybe 1 -2 years visiting prof before you get it) you have to be an excellent teacher and a producer of research that is valued in the field  and are judged at the 6 year point whether you get tenure.  So basically, tenure comes in after 16 years of committing to the field.  They are not lazy people.[/quote]

And in years 17 - 35, once tenure is secured, they spend the rest of their career avoiding the classroom, resting on their laurels, trying to get away with teaching one class a week. They aren’t lazy during the pursuit and acquisition of tenure. They are lazy after.[/quote]

This is a stereotype and it is far and away not the norm. I've been in or adjacent to academia nearly my entire life and there are just as many crappy VAP or pre-tenure professors as there are post-tenure professors.

The issue isn't post-tenure professors, it's the same issue as in *any* field -- professors who are, like, 80 years old and refuse to retire. Hardly unique to academia. [/quote]

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