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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A five year old on a scooter or bike should be on the sidewalk or right next to a parent. Unless the van was driving on the sidewalk, I don't know why you would assume it was the driver's fault. [/quote]

The child was in a crosswalk. There's no way for a driver to kill her unless they ran the stop sign. Even if the child got out ahead of her parents, an attentive driver who stopped at the sign would STILL have been able to stop. [/quote]

That’s so obviously untrue. Have you really never once see a kid <5 yrs blast into the road (crosswalk)  without stopping??  You know, barreling at a good clip down the ADA sidewalk ramp?    Scooters are the most common method of this but I also see balance bikes and just plain running full bore.

Yes. Drivers need to to yield. Always. If you cannot reasonably see a thing to *yield to* though, it makes it pretty hard. Even at 5 mph

A 42” tall child fast approaching from your right if you’re in a tall van at dusk-darkness is almost impossible to see.

Peace to her family[/quote]

I agree this is how accidents happen with biking/scooting on the sidewalk. But this does not exonerate cars that whip around corners without stopping. If the van had come to a full stop before turning, the girl would not be dead. [/quote]

Why don't you read the accounts of the incident before spouting such stupid sh!t?  [/quote]

Because initial police reports of bike/ped accidents are notorious for being wrong and letting the driver off. And because I don’t believe that the vehicle could have accelerated that quickly if they came to a full stop; and if it did floor it through the intersection after stopping, that is equally reckless. And drivers need to look both ways before driving thru crosswalks. [/quote]

NP.  I think you are very biased here with a wild imagination.  You don't know what happened (no one on DCUM does since we were not there) and you are letting your bias come up with imaginary scenarios.  Maybe the van came to a full stop and the girl couldn't stop on her bike and hit her head on the side of the van, which led to internal bleeding of the brain, which led to her demise.  See how that works?

The only difference is that I don't believe my scenario, or yours, and I am not trying to place blame on the driver or the little girl.

This is a tragedy and instead of trying to demonize a whole set of people (drivers), which you are likely included in, let's try to show compassion.    [/quote]

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