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Can you acknowledge, somewhere in the echoing chamber of your skull, that contagious airborne diseases are a community risk, and we must team up to protect our most vulnerable? This includes vaccinated people who have waning immunity, the elderly who cannot mount a sufficient immune response despite multiple shots, the medically fragile, those who are allergic to a component of the vaccine and those who cannot yet receive a shot because they are in chemo. It also includes some children.

And when hospitals are overwhelmed, the increased mortality risk reaches EVERYONE, EVEN YOU. People die from easily-treated injuries or illnesses that would in normal times not have sealed their fate! This is happening all over the high-Covid states, in places where there are no ICU beds, or personnel is so beaten down they end up making mistakes.

It's one thing to declare that you are not a team player and you prefer having half a million excess American deaths every year from Covid for the foreseeable future, just so you can lead a normal life (flu kllls 30-50K a year).

It's quite another to say and do silly things without realizing exactly what the consequences are to your community and your country.

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I'm sorry - but why aren't those that are most vulnerable being quarantined instead of those who have been vaccinated?  You're living in a fantasy world is you think this is going away and transmission will cease.  It's going to be like the flu, which also kills the most vulnerable, including the elderly despite vaccines being available.  Continuing to go on with some of these measures ad-infinitum to prevent transmission is unrealistic. [/quote]

New poster, not the one to whom you're responding, second PP.

The first PP above is right. You are parroting tired old tropes comparing Covid to flu.

Did you really read that post, or did you leap directly to "this is like the flu! Live with it!"? Covid is not like the flu except in the fact it will be endemic.

Covid is immensely more easily transmitted than flu, so simply saying, "This is going to be like the flu" is incredibly uninformed; do you follow the actual day-to-day news about the science on Covid, especially the variants like Delta which are more, not less, contagious than the first round of the virus in 2020? You also chose to ignore the first PP's pointing out that Covid is more deadly than flu.

And you're one of those "back to normal" people who insists that "the most vulnerable" are the ones who should quarantine, I suppose, forever? Or at least indefinitely, which is the same thing as forever for some people who currently are unable to be vaccinated or who can be vaccinated but for whom a breakthrough infection (yes, breakthrough infections are real) could be devastating. In your mind, let them stay home forever so you and your college kid can return to normal. But if we ALL act like public health matters, and we all behave with more caution, distancing and masking -- we can all benefit, and guess what? Those more vulnerable people can have a life too, rather than being isolated indefinitely so YOU can have your life just as you please, right now.

But the understanding of and concern for public health, and the willingness to do real, tough work to achieve it, is utterly lost on most posters here and most people in this country. The PP at the top gets it but you and the "Back to normal now and let the weak stay home" crowd don't want to recognize that everyone could have a more normal life IF we had all just done real lockdowns last year and required vaccination for all. We can still crack this now, but not while people shrug off the pandemic as being finished. It isn't.[/quote]

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