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Anonymous wrote:Most of these kids are vaccinated by now. Delta is going to infect some, no matter what. They'll be sick and get over it. Life goes on, OP.

This. We are talking about fully vaccinated 18-22 year olds. They will almost certainly be fine if they get COVID.

They'll be fine. And what about their families and communities when they bring home covid infections? Are all of you just choosing to ignore the fact that vaccinated people can have the virus asymptomatically and can infect others? Or are you willing to let your college students stay on campus through every break, yes, even Christmas break, so they keep any infection on campus? What is with the people on these boards pretending that college students live in magical bubbles and aren't going to spread infection when they go home for breaks? I hope all of you "they're fine!" people at least insist your students get tested before they come home.

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Anonymous wrote:

Can you acknowledge, somewhere in the echoing chamber of your skull, that contagious airborne diseases are a community risk, and we must team up to protect our most vulnerable? This includes vaccinated people who have waning immunity, the elderly who cannot mount a sufficient immune response despite multiple shots, the medically fragile, those who are allergic to a component of the vaccine and those who cannot yet receive a shot because they are in chemo. It also includes some children.

And when hospitals are overwhelmed, the increased mortality risk reaches EVERYONE, EVEN YOU. People die from easily-treated injuries or illnesses that would in normal times not have sealed their fate! This is happening all over the high-Covid states, in places where there are no ICU beds, or personnel is so beaten down they end up making mistakes.

It's one thing to declare that you are not a team player and you prefer having half a million excess American deaths every year from Covid for the foreseeable future, just so you can lead a normal life (flu kllls 30-50K a year).

It's quite another to say and do silly things without realizing exactly what the consequences are to your community and your country.

I'm sorry - but why aren't those that are most vulnerable being quarantined instead of those who have been vaccinated? You're living in a fantasy world is you think this is going away and transmission will cease. It's going to be like the flu, which also kills the most vulnerable, including the elderly despite vaccines being available. Continuing to go on with some of these measures ad-infinitum to prevent transmission is unrealistic.

New poster, not the one to whom you're responding, second PP.

The first PP above is right. You are parroting tired old tropes comparing Covid to flu.

Did you really read that post, or did you leap directly to "this is like the flu! Live with it!"? Covid is not like the flu except in the fact it will be endemic.

Covid is immensely more easily transmitted than flu, so simply saying, "This is going to be like the flu" is incredibly uninformed; do you follow the actual day-to-day news about the science on Covid, especially the variants like Delta which are more, not less, contagious than the first round of the virus in 2020? You also chose to ignore the first PP's pointing out that Covid is more deadly than flu.

And you're one of those "back to normal" people who insists that "the most vulnerable" are the ones who should quarantine, I suppose, forever? Or at least indefinitely, which is the same thing as forever for some people who currently are unable to be vaccinated or who can be vaccinated but for whom a breakthrough infection (yes, breakthrough infections are real) could be devastating. In your mind, let them stay home forever so you and your college kid can return to normal. But if we ALL act like public health matters, and we all behave with more caution, distancing and masking -- we can all benefit, and guess what? Those more vulnerable people can have a life too, rather than being isolated indefinitely so YOU can have your life just as you please, right now.

But the understanding of and concern for public health, and the willingness to do real, tough work to achieve it, is utterly lost on most posters here and most people in this country. The PP at the top gets it but you and the "Back to normal now and let the weak stay home" crowd don't want to recognize that everyone could have a more normal life IF we had all just done real lockdowns last year and required vaccination for all. We can still crack this now, but not while people shrug off the pandemic as being finished. It isn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the topic, my DD is very sick at UVA. Went to the student health center and the doc said probably a cold. He tested her for COVID and she’ll find out tomorrow morning. He told her tons of kids are sick but the vast majority are not testing positive.

I’m sorry, and I hope she feels better soon and that it is indeed just a cold.

Thank you, test results back with in 12 hours and she’s negative.

Great news! Hope she's feeling better soon!

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Anonymous wrote:Most of these kids are vaccinated by now. Delta is going to infect some, no matter what. They'll be sick and get over it. Life goes on, OP.

This. We are talking about fully vaccinated 18-22 year olds. They will almost certainly be fine if they get COVID.

I’m a different poster.

The mortality rate for young people is low. The percentage of vaccinated young people who get long Covid may be low. But I don’t think anyone has done a great job of slot testing the whole population, or whole vaccinated population, for issues like Covid lung, fatigue, anxiety, memory problems, fatigue or fertility problems.

Vaccinated young people with Covid may not develop those sorts of problems, but it might take 50
years or more for the data to firm up.

Just as, for example, scientist are still debating whether the 1968 flu pandemic caused schizophrenia in some pregnant women’s fetuses: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2009-06-pregnancy-flu-link-schizophrenia.html

We may have no real choice but to send our children off to college and hope for the best, but maybe it’s good if we have some humility and prayers in our hearts when we do that.

Anonymous wrote:Most of these kids are vaccinated by now. Delta is going to infect some, no matter what. They'll be sick and get over it. Life goes on, OP.

This. We are talking about fully vaccinated 18-22 year olds. They will almost certainly be fine if they get COVID.

Anonymous wrote:

Can you acknowledge, somewhere in the echoing chamber of your skull, that contagious airborne diseases are a community risk, and we must team up to protect our most vulnerable? This includes vaccinated people who have waning immunity, the elderly who cannot mount a sufficient immune response despite multiple shots, the medically fragile, those who are allergic to a component of the vaccine and those who cannot yet receive a shot because they are in chemo. It also includes some children.

And when hospitals are overwhelmed, the increased mortality risk reaches EVERYONE, EVEN YOU. People die from easily-treated injuries or illnesses that would in normal times not have sealed their fate! This is happening all over the high-Covid states, in places where there are no ICU beds, or personnel is so beaten down they end up making mistakes.

It's one thing to declare that you are not a team player and you prefer having half a million excess American deaths every year from Covid for the foreseeable future, just so you can lead a normal life (flu kllls 30-50K a year).

It's quite another to say and do silly things without realizing exactly what the consequences are to your community and your country.

I'm sorry - but why aren't those that are most vulnerable being quarantined instead of those who have been vaccinated? You're living in a fantasy world is you think this is going away and transmission will cease. It's going to be like the flu, which also kills the most vulnerable, including the elderly despite vaccines being available. Continuing to go on with some of these measures ad-infinitum to prevent transmission is unrealistic.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm, no. There's another virus going around at UVA as well as other colleges. The vast majority of students who are getting tested are testing negative, my son is one of them as well as his roommate. This alarmist mentality without any sort of supporting evidence other than someone is coughing is ridiculous. Even if Covid were spreading, what doe sit matter - I think something like 98% of UVA students and a like majority of faculty are vaccinated. You're not going to stop the spread, but can stop the seriousness of the symptoms, which is what the vaccine does very well.

Wanting to shut down everything is unrealistic and isn't going to happen. We have to learn to live with and manage this disease. If you're so worried about your kid catching Covid at school, you shouldn't have enrolled them in the first place. Better to lock them in your basement.

Exactly, my vaccinated first year started getting sick Friday, went and got tested immediately, negative with the rapid and confirmed with the PCR . A good amount of other students are getting the same thing. Bottom line is kids have been sequestered for 18 months, now they're all living in a communal dorm, normal crud is taking its course in kids that haven't had a lot of contact. I mean C'mon people, there are viruses in the world other than Covid, stop with the hyperbolic rhetoric about FB games, Trumpers or whatever else you scream about. Either the vaccinations work or not, get a frigging life and realize sickness is a thing in life and other diseases exist beyond Covid. Life must continue.

As we are seeing with RSV and children, there are definitely consequences to sequestering these students for 18 months. They haven’t been exposed to covid, but they also haven’t been exposed to anything else. It’s not surprising that they’d see a bump in the usual college crud.

Besides, the vast majority of the covid positives at Duke were asymptomatic, and if the positivity rate at UVA is 5%, it’s not likely that they’re missing a ton of cases.

I'm the PP, my kid was back up and running in two days. Sleep, water vitamin C and Zinc, it's going around like wildfire. Hopefully people start to realize that the vaccines are doing their jobs and we need to be much more measured in our actions moving forward.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of these kids are vaccinated by now. Delta is going to infect some, no matter what. They'll be sick and get over it. Life goes on, OP.

Some will die, some will have shortened lives, some will have chronic conditions and some will not be able to have families or hold a job. In the end, a lot of family lines will die off and human population will be significantly culled. It will be great for the Earth.

highly unlikely. Maybe if they had some other health issues going on.

Last school year 2 kids from my kid's college killed themselves by jumping off a tall building (two separte incidents, several weeks apart.) ZERO died of Covid. I'm far more concerned about the mental health of our young adults than Covid.

Can you acknowledge, somewhere in the echoing chamber of your skull, that contagious airborne diseases are a community risk, and we must team up to protect our most vulnerable? This includes vaccinated people who have waning immunity, the elderly who cannot mount a sufficient immune response despite multiple shots, the medically fragile, those who are allergic to a component of the vaccine and those who cannot yet receive a shot because they are in chemo. It also includes some children.

And when hospitals are overwhelmed, the increased mortality risk reaches EVERYONE, EVEN YOU. People die from easily-treated injuries or illnesses that would in normal times not have sealed their fate! This is happening all over the high-Covid states, in places where there are no ICU beds, or personnel is so beaten down they end up making mistakes.

It's one thing to declare that you are not a team player and you prefer having half a million excess American deaths every year from Covid for the foreseeable future, just so you can lead a normal life (flu kllls 30-50K a year).

It's quite another to say and do silly things without realizing exactly what the consequences are to your community and your country.

Anonymous wrote:oh and at UVA, all classes are currently still in person and all campus activities seem to be going on as normal.

Good!

Anonymous wrote:Not all of the classes are in-person.

yes but those are online because of space issues not COVID.

Not all of the classes are in-person.

oh and at UVA, all classes are currently still in person and all campus activities seem to be going on as normal.

Faucci link:
Seems like humans are to blame for meddling with viruses.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/internal-documents-further-contradict-fauci-142902303.html

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most of these kids are vaccinated by now. Delta is going to infect some, no matter what. They'll be sick and get over it. Life goes on, OP.

Some will die, some will have shortened lives, some will have chronic conditions and some will not be able to have families or hold a job. In the end, a lot of family lines will die off and human population will be significantly culled. It will be great for the Earth.

highly unlikely. Maybe if they had some other health issues going on.

Last school year 2 kids from my kid's college killed themselves by jumping off a tall building (two separte incidents, several weeks apart.) ZERO died of Covid. I'm far more concerned about the mental health of our young adults than Covid.

Anonymous wrote:This is happening at all colleges and no one is getting tested because they don’t want to miss class and fail out.

This is not true. Some universities have on-going mandatory surveillance testing for everyone including staff, faculty, and students. It's a pain and not perfect. But, gives some piece of mind.