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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can't believe they're vaccinating children.  Absolutely bonkers here. The world has gone mad. [/quote]
In other parts of the world, where the vaccine hasn't been so politicized (such as Germany and the UK), health agencies are coming to the conclusion that for younger kids, the vaccine doesn't seem necessary. I don't have faith that American health agencies will be able to make an objective determination, in the current political climate.

I've got 2 kids under the age of 10, and I haven't seen anything to convince me that the benefits of vaccination outweigh the potential risks. Vaccination of kids would mostly be of benefit to adults who won't vaccinate themselves. Why should I make my kids get vaccinates to help people like that?  [/quote]

I agree with you.

I have following the discourse closely and have family in other parts of the world.

I have no plans to get my 8 year old vaccinated if/when the shot gets EUA.  My 12 year old is eligible for Pfizer, but I am not even convinced that is worth it right now.

I’m obviously keeping a close eye on numbers and would be willing to reconsider for my 12 year old if numbers increase in kids (hopefully not!).

DH and I, plus grandparents, are all fully vaxxed and kids will be going back to in person school in the fall as long as MCPS reopens.

I think there is no ‘wrong’ choice here.  Parents of kids under age 18 can go either way and it is a valid choice based on ones own risk tolerance.  
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Why do they believe it's not necessary? Where I live, adults aren't getting vaccinated, so I am going to have to get my son vaccinated I think. [/quote]

They don't think it is not necessary. That is a misreading. Many EU countries have already started vaccinating 12-17 and others were waiting for go ahead from the European Medicines Agency. Those overseeing vaccinations in the UK and germany specifically said they would like to wait to see more data, so they are taking a more conservative approach. But no one is really claiming it isn't necessary, they're just HOPING it isn't or waiting for more availability of vaccines.[/quote]

DP. This isn’t quite an accurate representation either. I cannot speak for the UK, but in Germany the position of the government differs from that of the independent expert commission on vaccines. While the government is pushing for getting teens vaccinated in a quest for herd immunity, the independent experts say that they don’t think that based on the current data we have on the vaccine and the evidence of the low risk of Covid to healthy children, they can recommend vaccinating all teenagers. They are not discouraging parents from making the decision to get their teens vaccinated, but as a matter of policy they don’t think the risk-benefit calculation is in favor of it due to the lack of data on the safety of the vaccine and the fact that kids are low risk. It is not a matter of “hoping” for anything. Nor is it a supply issue, or the German government wouldn’t be advocating for general vaccination of teenagers.[/quote]

It's a timing and supply issue as the government promised everyone over 12 could be vaccinated by the summer, but they were prioritizing high risk groups and adults first. [b]Since Stiko wasn not recommending it for kids 12-17, waiting on more data,[/b] supply was aimed toward the unvaxxed.

Germany only has 60%ish vaccinated....they still have a lot of adults left to go.

AS far as the rest of your post, pretty much what I said--they are being ultra conservative waiting on more data but they are essentially hoping that kids won't need it with delta and more re-opening/ They want more data, and they are reaching for adult herd immunity, so yeah...again. Not a completey rational position.

Yet, they do recommend it for kids with chronic conditions or comorbidities, so their position doesn't really make much sense, esp given the scads of data we have and the near global, universal consensus that it is a safe and necessary vaccines for kids.[/quote]

Your post is a little bit muddled, but the bolded was my point. Stiko is the expert commission on vaccines, and their decision not to recommend universal vaccination of this age group had nothing to do with supply. They were quite explicit about that.

And I am not sure what evidence you have that there is a “near global, universal consensus” that the vaccine is necessary for kids. It certainly doesn’t exist for the younger age group that isn’t even approved under EUA yet.

And just for the record, if I had teens, they would get their shots. But not because I think Covid is a huge risk for them. I would do it because I want this pandemic to end and because I want them to get their lives back.[/quote]

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