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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My grandfather had a NDE when he had a heart attack in his late 40s.  He was pronounced dead, but he revived some time later.  He was already a man of deep faith, so he felt no need to talk about the details of the experience, but he lived the next 30+ years with great peace, love, and joy.

[b]For those with no faith, no metaphysical mystery will be great enough to instill awe. [/b] There are so many things about the human experience that defy understanding.  I read The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven with interest, and I've been meaning to take Heaven is for Real out of the library.  I find the stories intriguing.  But they are not necessary for my faith.

I do wonder about those who don't know or care about the possibility of an afterlife.  The degree of confidence you must have in materialism goes far beyond the confidence most people have in God.  Why so certain when you have no material evidence you are correct?[/quote]

That's right.  As long as it is a mystery, non-believers won't believe and believers will.  Same goes with Ouiji boards, alien abductions, and reading chicken bones, but of course the believers don't believe in those things.

I get a God who expects obedience and love.  A God who creates a universe that we can study in infinite detail, but fails to make his presence clearly and unequivocally known is really hard to fathom.  In order to know God, you need faith.  But faith is not an act of will, but a gift from God.  OK so it isn't in our control.  No wait, it is.  You just have to "open your heart", which to a non-believer sounds like "you have to want to believe".   If you want to believe in alien abductions, you may end up believing in them, but that does not mean they are real.[/quote]

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