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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My DCs don’t have tutors (in 4th grade it’s a waste of money). But they learn the material before it’s taught in class. I had an Asian student in my HS who aced every single math test, and one day I noticed he had completed all the practice questions in the new unit we were starting. He told me he always did the  whole chapter prior to class so that it was essentially review and practice (and he could ask questions if he didn’t understand something). I thought this was brilliant and honestly can’t believe no one else does this. Apparently, this is much more common in other cultures (learning the work before it is taught in class). I do it with my kids now and it is a much more effective way of learning.[/quote]

Indeed, why bother with the teacher at all?  She sounds superfluous.  [/quote]
sometimes I would agree.  But the teachers are needed to hand out the materials and test the kids.  I don't want to homeschool my kid.

DC is in a HS magnet. DC said DC mostly learned from the videos, presos that the teacher posted, and sometimes on Khan academy for math.   DC hardly listened to the teachers drone on in zoom class. DC is a straight A student.

DC and the friends also self studied for AP exams though the materials were provided by the teachers.  No tutoring.

When DC was in middle school, DC would do something similar to what ^^PP posted about the kid learning ahead.  DC would do the same but mainly because DC was bored in class so DC would look ahead.

DC has never had a tutor.

I don't understand your snark here.  Would you say the same thing about a kid who tried to play some music piece that the teacher hadn't covered?  I bet you would be impressed by it.

But when it comes to academics, the learning ahead seems to trigger some people.[/quote]
It’s not only academics, as you suggest. Fine, if a kid adores math so much that he wants to go ahead in the book, fine, good. If your child loves reading mundane stories in the reading book provided, again, great. The issue is with the hiring of extra unnecessary help for the kids. As they say, you get what you pay for. If you pay for a tutor, even though your child is average and not struggling, you are guaranteed to see improvement. Your average kid will become above average. Miraculous :/ That can be said for anything, academics, sports, music, whatever. [/quote]
^PP here

who are you to say what's necessary or unnecessary for that kid?

You say "that can be said for anything", but I never ever hear people complaining about kids who hire private coaches for sports or tutors for music lessons.

If you want to be the best soccer player, you practice extra and maybe hire a private coach to help you.  You are deemed "dedicated" to your sport.

But if you want to be the top in your class and you study extra, maybe hire a tutor to help you achieve this, then it's bad.

Sorry, I don't get the distinction.

I have a friend whose kid wanted to get better at soccer. So, a private instructor worked with him on some skill.  My kid was in the same soccer team as this kid, and my kid is not a good player.   I realized that if my kid wanted to be better, he was going to also need a private instructor. But that wasn't important to him or to me. So we didn't do it.

It's  not that important to me or my kid for them to superstars, whether in academics or sports. So, we don't do those extra things even as DC is in a magnet.  But, as a parent, if I felt that this was important, then I'd probably would do it.

I used to be like OP and scoff at people who put their kids in after school tutoring/prep classes. Then I realized that really, this is no different than the soccer situation. I don't judge my friend or his kid for hiring a private instructor, and I wouldn't judge others for putting their kids in a prep class.

I think people like OP feel that their kids won't be able to keep up, and they don't want to put extra time/effort.

But, as they say... you parent your kid; I'll parent mine.[/quote]

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