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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Any group that decides who can join and who can't is hazing-it has many meanings.  [/quote]

So every employer hazes when it interviews a prospective employee? This anti fraternity theme is getting ridiculous. Sure, some are bad and some are good - just like everything else in the world. People who sit in their bubbles,  cast stereotypes and rage at things they dislike are the true source of ugly on these boards. Maybe some self-reflection is in order.[/quote]

[b]any overweight people?  anyone who doesn't dress like all the others?  Any in wheelchairs?  Any special needs students?  any blacks in them?  oh they have their own of course

sororities and fraternities want people just like them -we all know it[/b] [/quote]

You seem to think "Revenge of the Nerds" is reality. I can only speak for my sorority at my large, southern, state university, but we had people of all shapes and sizes, people from different races (although, yes, most of us were white), and nobody gave a $&#@ what we wore. I find your comment about "special needs students" offensive, as I'm guessing you have an image in your head of someone who "looks" a certain way. In answer to your question, yes, we had people who would have been served through special education in school. No, we didn't have anyone in a wheelchair, but I don't recall anyone going through rush at that time who was in a wheelchair. My sorority was viewed as "good," if you define that by the number of rushees who did/did not choose us, so if we truly only cared about someone's appearance, I guess we would have been in a position to do so. Thankfully, my friends weren't that superficial.

It's absolutely fine if sorority/fraternity life isn't for everyone. There are lots of clubs/groups that don't interest me. However, the difference is that I don't make sweeping generalizations about everyone who is part of whatever the group may be. There may be schools where rush is more looks focused and hazing is rampant, and that should absolutely be addressed. Just quit with the sweeping judgments of everyone who is/was in a sorority or fraternity - it's very judgmental, a quality you seem to dislike in others.[/quote]

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