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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Let's use Dartmouth as a case study to help provide some insights to your question.

For the Class of 2024 there were 1,058 students admitted.  Of those:
-  Approximately 20% of the class or 210+ students were recruited athletes that comprise the vast majority of ED admits, it should be noted that at Ivy League schools the recruited athletes are of similar academic profile to the non-recruited athletes but can contribute both academically and athletically and the meaning of a recruited athlete is very different than an SEC or Big10 recruited athletes
-  10% were international students that not only pay full tuition but typically have a track record of donating more on a per capita basis than non-international students and often come from extreme high net worth families
-  10% were Legacy, while there could be some overlap between Legacy and Athletes or International, its probably a significant minority of Legacy admits that are recruited athletes and/or international
-  15% are first generation college students that probably worked really hard in high school but lacked the capabilities to test prep ad naseum from an early age to a 1,500+ score, etc.
-  27% are urm (black 11%, hispanic 12%, native 4%) so without getting into a debate about affirmative action, etc. this group is evaluated separately and statistically have a 200 to 300point SAT handicapped compared to the non-urm students, and interestingly there is not much overlap between recruited athletes and urm status at Ivy League schools

Assuming there is no overlap above the total is 82%, realistically its probably somewhere above 70%.

So if your student is not in any of the above categories, they are competing for the remaining 18% to ~30%...
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There's definitely overlap between first-generation and URM - maybe half.[/quote]

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