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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think everyone assumed that it was Marilyln Manson considering she was with him when she was very young (and was probably abused by men before him). I cannot believe the victim blaming on this thread. You lot are disgusting.[/quote]

IT’S NOT VICTIM BLAMING!!!!! I have enormous sympathy for her. But DAMN, let’s use good judgment and instincts ladies! [/quote]

There was a lot of press at the time fawning all over him for basically being the polar opposite of his persona in real life. A really calm, thoughtful, intelligent, and even shy guy who loved puppies and kittens and was the height of non-threatening. I think Dita originally put a lot of that narrative out there when they were together, but it was definitely a thing. He is actually pretty intelligent and well spoken but quiet in interviews. I can see that narrative making you question yourself, especially at 18. [/quote]

I remember that.  I remember thinking he was creepy AF, and couldn't believe anyone would listen to his stuff, but I remember a real narrative that it was "art" and that he was actuall a really intelligent, kind guy who was making some sort of point about .... I do not even know -- it never made sense to me.  I feel like there are a couple of dangerous narratives going around.  One is that it is "art" to elevate things that are just really gross; and two that there is no such thing as a bad kink -- that it's all okay so long as its consensual.  I think the latter leads to young women feeling like they are prudish if they think something is gross or creepy, so they try to be okay with stuff they are not okay with.  I stopped reading the Slate advice colum because there were so many questions and answers that I felt were normalizing weird fetishes.  I'm not saying we should penalize that stuff (assuming its consensual), but I think it's dangerous to normalize things like BDSM and other kinks. [/quote]

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