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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It will be like the flu shot where it will protect some from some strains and that's it.[/quote]

Wrong. There is only one strain. There is a complete lack of scientific understanding on this board (and the American public in general).[/quote]

It honestly makes me want to cry. But it explains so much. So much. [/quote]

This is the result of absolutely crappy education in our country. [/quote]

PP here. I had a pretty terrible education. I don’t think this is necessarily related to education. It is more being able to sift through a lot of nonsense and understand what is legitimate information and what is not. I don’t know how we teach that or if it is even possible. But the current state of the US and what so many believe is so worrisome. Vaccines will work because of antibodies, B cells, and T cells. Reinfection can happen but it is unlikely due to the same things. It is not surprising that we have seen low numbers of reinfection.  Not everyone mounts a full immune response from infection (same with a vaccine). This is why we need a large number of people to get the vaccine. We will not get to herd immunity without it unless we are going to watch a lot of our fellow countrymen die. The good news is that the 2 vaccines that we have a dataset for indicate a high coverage (95%). This will help reduce the % we need to get the herd immunity (through a combination of infections and vaccines).

I went to public school my entire life.  Not even very good ones. But I know how to interpret data and how to identify experts in relevant areas. This is what they all are saying.

I am doing my best to avoid an infection and hopefully will get a vaccine to provide my protection. MRNA vaccines are really cool. [/quote]

Education is a vague goal. What we lack and sorely need is "scientific literacy." Here is a definition of that form the National Academy of Sciences:

SCIENTIFIC LITERACY. Scientific literacy is the knowledge and understanding of scientific concepts and processes required for personal decision making, participation in civic and cultural affairs, and economic productivity. It also includes specific types of abilities. In the National Science Education Standards, the content standards define scientific literacy.

Scientific literacy means that a person can ask, find, or determine answers to questions derived from curiosity about everyday experiences. It means that a person has the ability to describe, explain, and predict natural phenomena. Scientific literacy entails being able to read with understanding articles about science in the popular press and to engage in social conversation about the validity of the conclusions. Scientific literacy implies that a person can identify scientific issues underlying national and local decisions and express positions that are scientifically and technologically informed. A literate citizen should be able to evaluate the quality of scientific information on the basis of its source and the methods used to generate it. Scientific literacy also implies the capacity to pose and evaluate arguments based on evidence and to apply conclusions from such arguments appropriately.[/quote]

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