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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well, let's get back to that soooper scary soooper spreader event happening in New Hampshire. The governor shuts down an activity all over the state for 158 presumptive cases over 60 days across 23 organizations. So. about 2.5 cases a day for 23 orgs over 60 days. This is also for presumptive positives which haven't been confirmed and where most have likely turned into false-positives. New Hampshire tests at about 7000 a day. Just like in the Maine hockey case, which has since gone silent, is that .8-4% of those tests will turn out a false positive. 70 - 280 of those tests are turning out presumptive positives which will most likely turn out false positives. Even with that, New Hampshire hasn't turned into cv19 central. Here is what the New Hampshire health department reports and these are the same numbers used by any cv19 reporting site in the world New Cases 10/18 - 57 10/17 - 70 10/16 - 109 10/15 - 88 10/14 - 80 10/13 (date of story and where the sooper spreading should be noticeable) - 69 Whoops, all of these tests fall into the range of faulty test results. Even those that snuck through could be a confirmed person testing again until they go negative or they could be unrelated like a teacher at a college. The sooper scary hockey OUTBREAK is a bust. [/quote] You seem to keep claiming over and over with no evidence that all positive tests are false positives or people retesting. It’s weird and utterly unconvincing. [/quote] That's not what I'm saying and you can't read. There are now a number of studies showing the false presumptive and then the false positive test percentage of all tests is in the .8% - 4% range. We also know many states don't distinguish in their test reporting between anti-body (past infection now turned antibody); new and unique cases; and repeat testing on those cases already deemed positive. The Lancet and CDC both have information and studies related to this. In states like Maine and New Hampshire where the reported cases fall below these ranges and coupled with flat hospitalization rates, it is presumed there isn't or hasn't been an outbreak or a health emergency urgent enough to shut the system. DC's metrics show they have been out of any sort of pandemic for a long time. Maryland shows they have been out of any sort of lockdown situation for 2 month and their health care capacity is near 90% available. Virginia is currently the worst in the DMV area. They have plenty of capacity but still have a small number of true new infections. They are rising to the mean nationally while MD has fallen. But Maine and New Hampshire, where there is virtually no cases and plenty of hospital capacity, makes for good news on DCUM but simply doesn't hold water. [/quote] Well, when you say things like [quote]Whoops, all of these tests fall into the range of faulty test results. Even those that snuck through could be a confirmed person testing again until they go negative or they could be unrelated like a teacher at a college.[/quote] it seems like word salad wishful thinking. Maybe I can't read (despite having multiple degrees in science ), but maybe you should consider that what you are writing is very unclear and makes you sound like a crank. [quote]We also know many states don't distinguish in their test reporting between anti-body (past infection now turned antibody); new and unique cases; and repeat testing on those cases already deemed positive.[/quote] Please provide a specific citation indicating that all or the overwhelming majority of cases are somehow duplicates or antibody tests. [quote] DC's metrics show they have been out of any sort of pandemic for a long time.[/quote] You don't seem to know what the words you are using actually mean. With respect to Covid19, the CDC has this to say about the term "pandemic" -- "Because the disease then spread across several countries and affected a large number of people, it was classified as a pandemic." It's meaningless to talk about DC pandemics, VA pandemics or MD pandemics. [quote]But Maine and New Hampshire, where there is virtually no cases and plenty of hospital capacity, makes for good news on DCUM but simply doesn't hold water.[/quote] Actually, back on planet earth, here's what the real, actual news reports have to say: "The number of active COVID-19 cases in New Hampshire has more than doubled over the past two weeks, from 500 to over 1,000 infections, a number almost five times higher than the number of cases in the beginning of September." https://www.nhpr.org/post/nh-sees-continued-rise-covid-19-cases-experts-say-prepare-more#stream/0 Again, you seem to be a crank. [/quote]
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