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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A lot of rehabs suck, particularly places like [b]Caron.[/b]

Be super careful about what you choose.  Don’t choose one out of desperation.  [/quote]

We had the opposite experience with the Caron facility in PA. They were particularly good with dual diagnosis. Not cheap--the sticker price was $41k, they "scholarshipped" some amount, our insurance reimbursed us $18k, and we were out of pocket by about $6k in the end--but we found it well worth the price.

That said, there is no great data supporting inpatient rehab over community-based approaches to substance abuse treatment (actually, the opposite data exists).

Good luck OP.[/quote]

Thx what did you like about it? [/quote]

The family member who was a patient was treated with dignity, but they didn't take any BS. It's hard to draw that line with addicts--because a fair amount of BS'ing is part of the disease--but they did it pretty well. I saw someone else in this thread say that it seemed like a lot of peer-led AA; IDK whether that person is referring to the fact that nearly all of the providers at Caron are recovering addicts (?), which is normative in addiction treatment, but there was very clear difference between what they did and AA (and going to outside AA meetings was a regular part of the week also).

The family program was high-quality, clear and direct but non-shaming. It was a weekend of time with other families, then a M-W of program together with the patient. They are usually done all in one Sat-Wed interval but in our situation that wasn't possible and they worked with us to break them up.

The other diagnosis in this situation was well outside the usual scope of their practice and they consulted closely with the patient's treatment team at home; the care providers at Caron had an appropriate level of humility about what they did and didn't know, but they didn't let the fact that the situation was complicated get in the way of making progress.

The patient did "extended care" at Caron's halfway house in PA. We had also heard bad things about Caron Renaissance, but it wasn't even suggested. They also steered us away from a weeklong family therapy add-on that they offer (and that is not covered by insurance), but which the providers thought the patient was too acute to benefit from.

I didn't see "success stats" from them and haven't seen them from any other rehab. Success in addiction treatment is a lot less common than one would like, generally. It's a chronic and relapsing illness. There does seem to be clear evidence that inpatient rehab is no better than community-based rehab, and may be worse.

In our case, though, the patient had alienated enough people that he was homeless, and--as screwed up as this is--outpatient treatment often isn't an option for people who are homeless.

Good luck, OP. My thoughts are with you. [/quote]

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