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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Many of your points are antithetical to the fundamental conception of public school in America which is core to our democracy. Sure it's a mess, but the alternative is entrenched class systems.

They don't have that problem in Japan or Europe.
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Seriously?  You think Japan and Europe don't have a class system?  FYI, they do.

And, FWIW, it is much less mobile than ours.[/quote]

+1. In the French case, you have a side order of racist and post-colonialist attitudes that mean the "lower tracks" are disproportionately kids/teens of African and Middle Eastern descent. The lack of opportunities for those folks led to actual riots a few years back, but I guess the "France is great" OP missed that NPR segment. [/quote]

[b]That's not a problem with tracking itself- that's a problem with implementation. The solution should be ensuring that tracking is not being implemented in a racist way. That's the same for both the US and France.[/b] [/quote]

The legal history of tracking has been that it has always been racially biased in the United States. In fact, even gifted and talented programs have been racially biased, which is why certain jurisdictions, like MoCo, have been reforming their screening procedures for G and T. We all have implicit bias, and it’s impossible to separate that bias from student evaluation. That’s why any permanent, inflexible groupings of children are bound to be beset with racial issues.[/quote]

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