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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Many of your points are antithetical to the fundamental conception of public school in America which is core to our democracy. Sure it's a mess, but the alternative is entrenched class systems.

They don't have that problem in Japan or Europe.
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Seriously?  You think Japan and Europe don't have a class system?  FYI, they do.

And, FWIW, it is much less mobile than ours.[/quote]

+1. In the French case, you have a side order of racist and post-colonialist attitudes that mean the "lower tracks" are disproportionately kids/teens of African and Middle Eastern descent. The lack of opportunities for those folks led to actual riots a few years back, but I guess the "France is great" OP missed that NPR segment. [/quote]

That's not a problem with tracking itself- that's a problem with implementation. The solution should be ensuring that tracking is not being implemented in a racist way. That's the same for both the US and France. [/quote]

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