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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]black or Hispanic much better chance with those stats Is it fair personally I don't think so but it is what it is[/quote] same with white athletes and white legacy applicants.[/quote] Legacy is not the advantage that you think it is. I have twice had kids strike out at my alma mater despite scores within their middle 50%. Perhaps if I gave more.[/quote] +1. Legacy advantage is vastly overstated.[/quote] Except at Harvard -- which accepts way more legacies as a percentage of admits than anyplace else. However, they have so many alums, legacy is no guarantee.[/quote] Legacy admit rate at Harvard is 5x the regular admit rate. Legacy admit rate at Stanford is 3x the regular admit rate. Legacy admit rate at Yale is 4x the regular admit rate. Legacy admit rate at Princeton is 4x the regular admit rate. Decide for yourself whether this is an advantage or not. [/quote] [b]Nope, can't tell from the info provided. You have to look at the stats of the kids in each group.[/b] [/quote] While the last response seems intelligent and unbiased, it in actuality is a non-starter argument since even a great majority of the admissions officers on Harvard's selection committee compare and contrast every applicant in each group. Nobody's brain is a supercomputer to remember, recall, and compare! In case you didn't read the NYT article whose link is posted on this thread, let me copy, paste a small portion of it below: ‘A.L.D.C.’s Harvard gives advantages to recruited athletes (A’s); legacies (L’s), or the children of Harvard graduates; applicants on the dean’s or director’s interest list (D’s), which often include the children of very wealthy donors and prominent people, mostly white; and the children (C’s) of faculty and staff. ALDCs make up only about 5 percent of applicants but 30 percent of admitted students. [Five Harvard freshmen have a frank talk about how they got in.] While being an A.L.D.C. helps — their acceptance rate is about 45 percent, compared with 4.5 to 5 percent for the rest of the pool https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/07/us/getting-into-harvard.html[/quote]
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