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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad]It happens, yes.

Just not to the extent that we think.

And the countries we admire most, Germany and Iceland, are still casting a very wide net up to age 12 and even into the teens. It's not "pro academy at U9 or bust."

See another piece from These Football Times, which talks about Icelandic players having opportunities to walk into their local clubs, get good coaching and even have the opportunity to go on to big-time pro soccer.

https://thesefootballtimes.co/2015/01/15/the-icelandic-roadmap-to-success/

Here's a summary on Germany and how the federation makes an effort to find kids in the 10-14 years who aren't at the Bayern Munichs and Dortmunds: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/05/germany-football-team-youth-development-to-world-cup-win-2014 [/quote]

Starting the scouting process at a young age and casting a wide net for as long as possible are not mutually exclusive.  It is not "pro academy at U9 or bust" anywhere that is serious about finding and developing the best footballers.  Everyone recognizes that development is uneven, kids who were nothing special at 8 may blossom by age 15, and the opposite happens as well.  For that reason, the scouting process is never ending.  Every year at pro academies, players are let go to make room for others who will take their place.  Clubs are constantly on the lookout for players who may - for a variety of reasons - have fallen through the cracks up to that point.

The recent experience of local player Aethan Yohanes is a good example of this.   According to his dad's twitter feed, hs family moved to the Netherlands a year or two ago and he initially signed on with an amateur club.  After a while his talent was recognized - I think he got selected to a regional team or something, kind of sounded like ODP - and now he's at 1st division AZ Alkmar, and was recently called up to the US U15 NT camp.  I don't think he was a late developer, but the point is that professional clubs do keep scouting and looking for new players even from amateur clubs well into their teenage years.

By comparison, how many MLS scouts do you think were watching the last round of ODP regional events, looking for those diamonds in the rough?   [/quote]

[b]Aethan Yohanes was getting zero attention from USSF/youth national team, when he played locally for JOGA.  He was not scouted.  He was not known.  He would not have been considered to be good enough.  But for the move to the Netherlands, and getting spotted by AZ, he would still be one of the many kids who would have fallen through the cracks without ever getting a look.[/b] [/quote]

That is complete BS.  Typical Joga propaganda.

Facts:  He is an 04, who only played for FPYC under the Joga coach for one year, 2014-15, when Joga was just doing all-star tournament teams with kids from various different clubs.

It's true he was not scouted by US Soccer back then.  Probably because he was 11.

When Joga left FPYC and went out it's own in 2015-16, his dad was smart enough not to follow.  He went to LMVSC for a year instead, under coach Pepe, who manages to be really good at developing players without constant BS self-promotion on twitter.  Meanwhile, the Joga teams got relegated from 1st to 2nd division EDP, and folded the next year when their players all left to join better clubs.  Further proof of the benefits of a pro/rel system.

Anyway,  by 2016-17 Aethan was with DC United (but wait, our system doesn't find kids like this!).   As an 04 he played up a year, with the 03s.  He was definitely known.

So far, no less than 4 players on DCUs 04 team have been called into USYNT camps.   But sure. keep pushing the narrative that if Aethan had stayed on that team he would have "fallen through the cracks without even getting a look."  Don't let the facts get in your way. 
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You are so preoccupied with local soccer politics that you've completely missed the point.  This is not about JOGA.   Yohannes was not called up when he played for ANY of the clubs you've mentioned (FPYC, JOGA, LMVSC, DCU).   And since you've suggested that DCU had 4 players called up to the national team camp from their 04 team, that 04 team lost to VDA 3-4, tied NE Revolution 1-1 and beat Bethesda 1-0.   With such a high number of youth national team players on this 04 team, one would expect much stronger performance, particularly against local DA clubs.   [/quote]

The post I was responding too noted that he wasn't called up when he played for Joga, and then made the claim that he never would have been called to the USYNT camp if he hadn't left the US and gone to Holland.  In fact,  according to the poster, he "wouldn't have even gotten a look."

As I pointed out,  he was 11 when he last played for Joga.   So complaining that he wasn't called for the U14 USYNT back then is just plain stupid.  The fact is that he was called up in the first year he was actually eligible to be called up.   Were there any 04s called upto USYNT camps with the 03s list year?  Probably not many.

The fact that 4 of the current DCU 04s have been involved with USYNT camps disproves the claim of the original post,  that if he had stayed stateside he wouldn't have even gotten a look.   The truth is that all DA players have an opportunity to "get a look" by USSF, because their is a scout sitting at midfieldof every game during the showcases.

Keep talking about results at U15 though.   Which one of us is missing the point?

There ARE huge problems with USYNT scouting, and many talented players DO fall through the cracks.   This was just a bad example to use to try to make that point.   Mildfielders with great feet on DA teams who also happen to already be 5'10" 145 lbs at 14 years old are not the ones getting overlooked.   With the same talent level,  but if he was a late bloomer physically and still at LMVSV, then it would be a totally different story.   No chance he would have been called up.   If he was a late bloomer though,  I'm not sure he'd be at AZ Alkmar either.  Not saying he's not a great player,  but when you are physically advantaged relative to you're peers it makes it a lot easier to stand out.

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