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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Christmas and Valentines Day are secular now, Guys.  Enjoy! [/quote]

Well so are Rosh Hahahah and Yom Kippur --- just join Machar, the Jewish secular synagogue, to see that they are secular!

So if that is part of your heritage or not, you can enjoy!  Not that I see why non-Jews every embracing our most important holidays.

But, please don't tell us Jews that because Christmas, which celebrates the birth of a person who other worship as a god, has become secular, Jews should embrace it.  It's commendable for Jews to keep their unique culture and not assimilate with the majority Christian culture.  I personally admire Jews who show that Christmas is not an "American" holiday any more than Hanukkah is -- American means diverse religions so no religious holiday is an "American" one.[/quote]

I think we Jews should embrace it. We can still keep our culture and assimilate at the same time.[/quote]

NP. And how is that working out for us? 75% of Reform Jews intermarry and they and their kids predictably stop keeping any traditions. The only Jewish movement that’s actually growing is Orthodox. Because they refuse to assimilate. [/quote]

How often descendants of immigrants keep their culture after the 1st generation? My parents are Jewish immigrants and they raised me with a culture as an adult I choose not to care for.[/quote]

So you're not Jewish. You're not a Jew who celebrates Christmas. You're someone who used to be Jewish, and now follows the majority holiday practices.[/quote]

One still retains their Jewish heritage- that never goes away- your ancestry doesn’t change just because you celebrate Christmas.   So they are non practicing Jews who celebrate Christmas in a non religious way.  They are Jews but just non practicing.  [/quote]

That's only if you believe Jews are a racial group. You wouldn't say that about any kind of Christian, Muslim, Hindu, etc. that was totally non-practicing, a non-believer, and held as a personal value that he/she should fully assimilate into the majority (Christian) culture in all ways.

I don't know who you are, but you have an agenda.[/quote]

No sorry that argument doesn’t work... do you want to try again?[/quote]

Yup.

PP: JEWS ARE A RACIAL GROUP. Look it up. Ashkenazi and Sephardic are racial groups. When my husband and I did our genetic screenings while I was pregnant, we had to get the Ashkenazi Jew panel, which includes screenings for diseases like Tay Sachs, which is much more common among Ashkenazi Jews. I did the 23 and me thing last year and came up with 50% Ashenazi. My husband came up with 75%. We could never set foot in shul again and that would still never change. We will always be Jewish.

You are simply ignorant.[/quote]

I think you're the ignorant one. My DS's 23andme would likely show around 60% Ashkenazi.  His dad is a secular Jew, and we aren't raising him Jewish in any meaningful way.  The way things are going he will NOT be Jewish, depsite his genetics.  Judaism is a religion and culture, which can absolutely be lost if you don't maintain connections to it.  [/quote]

No no no no no.

Your son is ethnically Jewish. Why deny it?

There are literally haplogroups distinct to Ashkenazi Jews. It is an ethnicity. [/quote]

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