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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^To the FPYC parent who posted above.  In no way am I suggesting that any kids on your team or any other team ought to go elsewhere if they are happy with their situation.  My only point is that if a player in our area wants to get scouted by YNT or pro scouts eventually, it's not nearly so difficult as a lot of people on here make it out to be.[/quote]

I know it’s not, thanks for having a conversation. I heard one of the players who doesn’t even start was invited back to train with DCU after his initial try-out, so the opportunities are certainly there. Like I said, I think everyone is just happy with how things are currently going.[/quote]

Sorry,  but I find that hard to believe.   What age group?

The former FPYC player footprint in the boys DA, and DC in particular,  is actually surprisingly large,  but that has more to do with the quality of players that were developed and/or passed through during the Joga years than anything.

By my count,  former FPYC players from  06-02 at DA clubs:  4 Bethesda,  8 DC, 2 VDA, 1 Loudoun, 6 Arlington.  Another is now in Holland and just got called up to the U15 national team.  That is quite impressive and something a small club should be proud of, but instead they refused to support those responsible for doing that work, cast their lot with UK Elite (real appealing to the latino immigrant pop - NOT), and it's been a steady decline ever since.

There are still some good players that remain in those age groups,  but no,  they are not DA caliber.   That is in no in no way meant as an insult, it's just reality.   They are good players,  and it's great they are enjoying the game and playing good soccer, but it is just not accurate to imply that the only reason they won't be noticed and selected for higher levels is because they chose not to join DA teams.

It should also be noted that the FPYC technical director was listed as a DC United youth scout,  so presumably if FPYC had DA quality players,  he would have scouted them. 
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There are definitely more than one Joga/FPYC kid playing in Europe right now but you mentioned the one in Holland that was recently called up for the U15 NT.  When did he play for Joga or FPYC?  My son is younger but has trained with Joga for years and I never saw him around any training session but I definitely saw his younger brother and sister at Joga. The younger brother definitely played for FPYC as well. I love giving credit when credit is due but I'm not sure about this one.  Help me out.  Thanks.[/quote]

For one season - in 2014-15.  The same year his younger brother was with the U9s.  When Joga left FPYC and went off on its own, he turned them down and went to LMVSC instead.  A year later he left for DCU, then the next year he moved to Holland.  Before Joga/FPYC I think he may have played for Barca and CYA.

Some coaches love to take credit for any kid who ever passed through, however briefly.  I've even seen kids listed on websites or mentioned on twitter who only guest played in a couple of tournaments, or attended a clinic or two.  If a player was on a team for a whole year, then yeah, I think it's fair to say the coach had an impact.  As far as credit for "developing" the player though, I think they'd need to be there for 3 or more years at least.  To my knowledge there are only 2 Joga players (brothers) who you could really say that about.  The same could be said for all of the coaches who list all of the many national team or college players they've "developed", even when those players only joined a top team for exposure purposes relatively late on in their youth careers.  
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Thanks for the info.  I had thought he was more LMVSC than Joga so thanks.  Yes I agree with you that they can take credit for the brothers in Denmark but that's about it.  I think they can take credit for a lot of players in DAs though.  I agree that it's funny how they take credit for so many others though.
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