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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My DD and I just toured UVA two weeks ago.  We used to live in Arlington, and my DH is from VA.  We were in DC and drove down there. I'll tell you who is jealous of Virginians, and that is we Californians.  UVA lets in about 75% Virginians.  The in-state tuition is a bargain.  Meanwhile, out of state tuition is in the 45K range, and your kid cannot establish VA residency unless a parent lives there.

In CA, the University of California system (UCs, such as UCLA, UC San Diego, UC Berkeley etc) lets in some ridiculously low % of Californians, because they are looking for out-of-state or out-of-country students to subsidize the California kids. They also have a deal with the CA public HSs to let in their top 10% of kids.  But these publics don't hold a candle to what I've seen with the Arlington HS system.  So many families go private.  Then the private kids are SOL with respect to getting into their state schools bc those few spots are taken by public school kids.

[b]So...I don't know why any Virginian would scoff at the UVA deal.  Great school, great price.[/quote][/b]

Why are we leaving out the W&M deal?[/quote]

[b]Two very different schools.  Kids st both, years ago. Not too long ago, they were nearly at parity in terms of academic quality of undergrads, but UVA  just became the more popular and somewhat stronger school.  W&M is a great school but it has limited appeal now, given its size and reputation for un-fun.  I honestly think that it might become an all-women’s state college soon.  Its number of applications stays flat, it’s yield rate is embarrassingly low, and I think it has given up in appealing to men.[/b] [/quote]

Geez.  A typical fact-free, one-sided hack job.

UVA has always been more popular in the sense that more cross-admits choose to go there, but given it is significantly larger than W&M, it has to be for them to have similar admission stats because UVA has more spots to fill.

Reputation for un-fun?  Princeton Review, which bases its ratings on surveys ranked W&M #1 for "happiest students" and #2 for "their students love these colleges".  It is also #1 in alumni giving rate for public national universities and #2 in 4 year graduation rate per the USNews data.

Regarding applications, you say they stay flat.  A quick look at SCHEV site shows W&M applications went up 12 of 13 years from 2004-5 to 20017-18.

You say "I honestly think it might become an all women's state college soon".  Obviously that would not be legal or even desirable.  And if you look at the ratios, W&M is 57% female and 43% male and that is in line with national averages.  In comparison, UVA is 55% female and 45% male and UNC Chapel Hill is 59% female and 41% male.  
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