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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well I assume that some of my produce has been picked and processed by undocumented workers.  Otherwise I don't tend to know if people are undocumented or not.  Years ago I knew a fun grad student from Great Britain who overextended her visa. Not sure if she ever went back because I lost touch with her.[/quote]

Yeah, my family's in big ag, illegals are key. Not sure whether anyone on the political spectrum can feel good about this. Yes, the illegals make things 'cheap' in the short run, but there are definitely some long-run issues. If you  struggle with this idea, realize that fossil fuels probably make your day more convenient while at the same time the planet less habitable. the immigration debate is actually quite similar in that people are more confused about their interests than they realize.

BTW, I think the immigration debate should begin with a serious discussion about how the U.S. contributes to dynamics that essential force people to immigrate. This includes well over a century of economic imperialism in LatAm and a whole host of bad policy in MENA. Correcting these long-standing bad habits by the U.S. should be priority number 1 both for people who see the corrosive capacity of immigration (both illegal AND legal) as well as those we feel a legit humanitarian impulse to help the vulnerable.[/quote]

Agree with this. My grandfather was a farmer in the midwest and my dad and uncle worked on the farm until he left for college. My uncle still lives there. The area is mostly big ag now, and the farms employ a lot of undocumented workers, including people who use their friends or relatives' information to get employed. Honestly, most Americans will not take the jobs in slaughterhouses, meat packing plants, or fields. The ones who show up are typically not great workers and most can't pass the drug tests to start anyway (serious opioid issues in the area). [/quote]

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