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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I love Kenyon, but PP is correct about it being somewhat of an economic bubble: NYTimes Upshot article showed that Kenyon had 20% of students from the top 1%  family income level.  It's in the top ten colleges/universities on this metric--which is surprising for a highly selective college in the middle of nowhere.

As to earlier, which is a back-up discussion.
Looking at the CDS, Kenyon and Oberlin have nearly identical SAT ranges, but [b]Kenyon average GPA is 3.94 while Oberlin's is 3.57[/b].  Kenyon has a slightly lower acceptance rate 25-26% to Oberlin's 28-29%.

Grinnell and Carleton have SAT ranges that are about 30-50 points higher, no GPA info but ranking suggest similar to Kenyon/Oberlin.  Acceptance rates 20-21%.  These two have the slightest of edges over the selectivity of the other two but we're getting into meaningless differences here--at that point you should look at preferred location, programs of interest etc over "ranking" in my view.

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[b]Oberlin stats are deceptive.[/b]  Oberlin recalculates HS GPA based on core courses, removing all "fluffy" courses.   Read here https://www.oberlin.edu/blogs/whats-gpa

Oberlin also combines its stats with conservatory students.  Oberlin Conservatory is world-class and conservatory students' academic stats tend to be lower than the regular Oberlin students.  This will depress the overall GPA.  
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I used numbers from the Common Data Set which is supposed to be on standard numbers.  Most selective colleges--including Kenyon, Grinnell, Carleton etc. do a similar recalculation when assessing GPA, but Common Data Sets--esp within the same state--follow the same rules.  Oberlin also has slightly lower class rankings.  I think your point about the conservatory makes sense.  And, like I said, the differences are pretty meaningless in my view. [/quote]

It's unlikely Kenyon's 3.94 is a recalculation removing all padded courses, as 3.94 unweighted (?) means straight As with probably just 1 B all through HS.

Oberlin for some reason publishes deceptive stats - even when it's not in its favor to do so.  [/quote]

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