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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It really annoys me when parents talk about how they sacrificed to raise kids and then kids owe them something. Nope. You had kids because you wanted them. You had them for your own enjoyment and shouldn't have been such a martyr. [/quote]

Such a twisted logic. [b]By having children I did them a favor [/b]which is the biggest favor they could have gotten - being born. there is absolutely a reason to be grateful to be born. I certainly was grateful to my parents for giving me a chance at life.[/quote]

No wonder your children don't want to be around you.  You had children because YOU wanted children.   I think some adults if told "you have a choice:  You can be born and be chained to your manipulative, entitled parents for your ENTIRE life or you can not be born," they'd choose to not be born.  You don't get to say that you "gave" them life and then go on to demand how they life it.  Life without freedom is servitude.  Did you have children to make them your servants?

The real gift parents can give their children is freedom -- and that means freedom from emotional blackmail and manipulation.  Usually, when parents give their children that gift, the adult children do actually then want to have a relationship with their parents in adulthood.  [/quote]

my children are in early elementary and can't get enough of me so not relevant.

my own mom often asksed me jokingly what am I going to give her to pay her for off for giving birth to me. I loved my mom and we were very very close. but I am not a native born American, thank lord, and don't have this completely twisted conception of family.

to be born is a huge gift. if to weren't most people would kill themselves. but in fact a vast majority cling to their lives even in the worst circumstances.[/quote]

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