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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Be careful what to you wish for!!!!!!!!!!

I keep hearing “tyranny of the minority”. The Filibuster is used to to keep the moderate majority from passing bills along a 51-49 party line vote. If something is good, you should be able to get both parties to vote for it and get to 60.

So everyone here who wants the filibuster gone, be careful.  To use it as a problem to pass liberal legislation that YOU want passed. And you see it as a tool Republicans are using that you want gone!

However Democrats have used it tons of times as well. Most recently was against Trump and the border wall. Trump had the house and senate and wanted to move funding to complete the border wall.  Democrats Stopped him using the filibuster.  Without the filibuster, Trump would have his entire wall now and could do anything he wanted the years he had simple majorities of the house and senate.

https://apnews.com/united-states-congress-4089515ecc8b43198b2f3bb7062453f6

So if yo give up this power now, you will have no defense when yo use so the minority.

Ask Harry Reid how that turned out when he got rid of the 60 votes needed to confirm judges. The republicans when took over, confirmed a record number of judges along party lines. Democrats could do nothing to stop them.[/quote]

Sure, 60 votes between the two parties should be possible when good legislation is in front of them. It certainly used to be. Anyone who has been paying attention for last few decades and especially in the Trump era has witnessed our two major political parties evolve into a dysfunctional mess with piss poor leadership. We need to somehow rid ourselves of the stubborn over 70 dinosaurs in Congress along with a few dozen of the wing nuts that make all the unnecessary noise and then combine that with elite leadership like a Clinton or Obama in The White House and then maybe, just maybe good legislation will regularly be passed. We are far, far from this solution at the current moment.[/quote]

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