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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They weren't *that* poor. Guns and ammo cost money.[/quote]

They had recently been evicted. Money mismanagement I guess??? [/quote]

Neighbors and former landlord have spoken to the press. Seems like the mother was a complete nightmare: locking kids out of the house for hours (with kids banging on door to get back in), mother driving up and down street drunk, mother passed out in driveway or on front lawn with car running and music blaring, mother screaming. Father seemed to not be much of a problem but also seemed to stand by while wife did all this. Mother recently arrested for beating and tying up her own elderly mother.

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Maybe Grandma was refusing to provide the free child care JD said she should[/quote]

The village failed these kids.  And of course the idiot Father who bought his troubled son a gun for Christmas even after he had threatened to shoot up a school.  Both will go to jail, people will be satisfied that justice was served and the system that makes guns very easy to access and failed to help these kids will not change and there will be more school shootings and tiny coffins in a few weeks.[/quote]

There are tons of messed up families like this in destitute areas across the country. While all of these kids don’t turn to mass murder many grow up to be violent adults or addicts. [/quote]

They also grow up to be people who insist that they "turned out just fine" and so we don't need all that mental health and social service b.s. We don't need the kind of community supports that lead to healthier, happier children and fewer dysfunctional adults. Rather, they'll argue for fewer participation trophies, more whippings, and maybe Jesus. (Even as they mostly ignore Jesus in favor of the Old Testament God who resembles the kind of violent father figure they're used to.) [/quote]

I have some relatives that are like this. The dad is a absent drug addict and the “just fine” daughter has multiple DUIs and a string of relationships where she was getting beat but she didn’t pick up the pipe so she turned out “okay”. This is even with decent family support, some people just never get over it.[/quote]

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