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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think a lot of people are gonna be embarrassed when this young woman , who is an adult , shows up

PP’s who pointed out that if this were some AA girl it wouldn’t be a media frenzy have a dead on point

Lastly, to the PP who keeps insisting that they can just tell from Brian’s body language and manner of speaking h that “ he is an abuser “ - did you even watch the whole tape ? Because I saw a nervous, kinda weird guy but I also saw him - when the cop said Gabby was going to have to spend the night in jail as she was the assailant and , as a result, could not be put in the hotel shelter - I saw him ask if he could just be the one to use the jail cell instead of her and let her have the van

Putting her first, putting her welfare first even after she caused the whole scene and the cops having to pull them over

[b]THAT is a young man doing the right thing.[/b] My guess is eventually he had had enough and listened to his parents and came home

Not a crime [/quote]

He is not doing the right thing by not even saying when/where he last saw her. I don't care what anyone says about lawyers. I would rather go to jail than not say what happened to my husband to help an investigation. I would want a lawyer present, for sure. As the mother of boys there is no way I would let my kid live with me if they couldn't have the basic decency to do this. Not a role model, pp. [/quote]

Let's say that she died by falling off a cliff (or jumping).  If I'm him, there's no way on earth I'm telling the police that for fear of them assuming I killed her.  I'd get home to mom/dad ASAP and ask them what to do next.  He knew there is police video that shows them arguing.   He's a sitting duck for being blamed for her death, whether or not he caused it.  I don't think his "lawyering up" shows anything about his guilt or lack of guilt.

Also, she was clearly unstable.  Her family was too---it's BEYOND weird that they allowed their mentally ill, hysterical daughter to continue to travel alone with her boyfriend.  Any of us would be on a plane and headed out there the day after that phone call.  
I wonder if he and his family knew very well what they were dealing with (unstable girl, weird family) and lawyered up asap knowing that even something benign would not work itself with these people involved.

All that to say that we have no idea what happened. 
-he killed her
-she committed suicide
-she had an accident
-she died from the elements
-a third person killed her.

Innocent until proven guilty.  It may sound like I'm defending him but I just HATE it when people assume it's the man.  Has to be the man.  No trial, no jury.  He's guilty.  That's now how the legal system works, thank goodness.  [/quote]

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