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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Asian families as a cohort prize STEM careers and cultivate their children to do well in STEM classes. I'm sure many of them contribute immensely to TJ. I don't get the argument against Asians and TJ. It's like penalizing farmer children for doing well on manual labor tasks.[/quote]

1) Students shouldn't be penalized for not being born into an Asian family, and admission to TJ should be an accomplishment of the student, not the family

2) Many do, and many don't. The number of kids at TJ - again, of ALL races - who just show up, take their classes, get their diploma and leave without contributing anything to the broader community is disgraceful for a selective school, and is a function of a previous narrow-minded admissions process that over-selected for test-taking skills

3) It's not an argument against Asians, it's an argument in favor of representative diversity, which CONSISTENTLY produces stronger academic environments and students more prepared to face and take on the problems of the real world. When you have a population that is wildly over-represented in any environment, any effort to achieve legitimate diversity will have an impact on that population regardless of whether they are specifically being targeted

4) That analogy has no relevance at all and it's not clear what point you're trying to make with it.[/quote]

No one is being penalized. TJ is a school you apply to.

[b]How is it measured if those students do more or less than other schools in the area[/b]? By what criteria? I know a lot of TJ people who moved back to this area and are raising their children here. One current TJ grad is spending the year here helping other children through the pandemic. Do you have any data that these students aren't contributing to the economy and broader community both in school and after?

There is nothing wrong with trying to achieve diversity. The testing should be made broader to be more inclusive then or more work done to help kids rise to the same level. Not dumb down the school.[/quote]

When I refer to "the broader community", I mean the broader TJ community. The question I'm asking is "what value do you add to the experience that other students have at the school?"

I don't particularly care about the extent to which other students at other area schools contribute to their environments, because most of them are not nearly as selective as TJ is with the exception of a few privates - and those privates are HIGHLY attuned to the value that their applicants are likely to bring to the school community.

What I do know is that participation in school activities that are collaborative and that other students enjoy is way down compared to where it was 15-20 years ago. Far fewer students play on athletic teams, and far fewer students attend those contests. Far fewer students participate in performing arts, and far fewer students attend those performances. Students use their time in eighth period not to connect with their fellow students and share their passions, but instead to pad their college resumes with participation and leadership in clubs that have fancy, STEM-sounding names, but that don't actually do anything during their time in the club. More and more students know fewer and fewer of their fellow classmates. More of them transfer out of the school than in past years. And, critically, fewer of them return to visit for events like Homecoming or during their college vacations (granted, this last piece can be attributed somewhat to draconian and tone-deaf visitor policies put in place during the Glazer era).

I don't know if this has anything to do with the increase in the Asian population, but I do know that it has everything to do with the optimization of the TJ admissions process and the individualistic attitude that is instilled in the kids from an early age.[/quote]

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